From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 27 06:21:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE4715DBF21 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 06:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1E0E7061A for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 06:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.103.163.228]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N4hj5-1ifkIr1sCl-011m3K; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 08:20:54 +0200 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 08:20:52 +0200 From: Polytropon To: doug@fledge.watson.org Cc: doug@safeport.com, Alejandro Imass , Allen Schaaf , Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: I've got a major question... 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The firm you engage should be knowledgeable in this. Here is something I'd like to add: USB security tokens. Certain models require specific drivers only available for "Windows 10" (see problems discussed before) and a buggy equivalent for Linux. No macOS support. In case you should require those, experimenting with wine (or a VM with a "single-purpose" installation of "Windows") might be worth looking at. >From my experience, WiFi was never a problem because workstations were all networked with cable, and video cards, well, the brand and model that supported the BrookTree interface provided by FreeBSD was chosen for purchase. Problems solved. ;-) Yes, of course I know that you cannot always buy something new, and instead have to deal with "we must use what we have" problems. That's why proper testing is needed _before_ the transition starts. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...