From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 18 18:37:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A26A106566C for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from howie@thingy.com) Received: from post1.inband.network-i.net (tobago.network-i.net [212.21.96.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DB1E8FC0C for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:37:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 61418 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2011 18:31:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.16?) (212.21.124.49) by post2.inband.network-i.net with SMTP; 18 Jul 2011 18:31:39 -0000 Message-ID: <4E247D5E.20106@thingy.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 19:37:18 +0100 From: Howard Jones User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <20110717071059.25971662@scorpio> <4E22DFE9.7050007@pathscale.com> <201107172016.30727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <4E23989F.7010701@gmail.com> <4e242fab.s4vpgxxZEUq0LFDq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4E23D7E7.7060602@gmail.com> <20110718100541.a5105216.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110718121426.1af63b55@atmarama.net> <4E2409E7.5090109@thingy.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:37:02 -0000 On 18/07/2011 19:18, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Howard Jones > wrote: > > On 18/07/2011 11:14, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote: > > Interesting - I'm in the process of switching our FreeBSD servers to > Linux (Debian and CentOS), to get away from the packaging/ports > mess :-) > I've been spoilt by apt-get and yum and first-class support in Puppet. > I've been a FreeBSD user since 2.x, but keeping a significant > number of > systems up to date is just tedious without a decent binary package > manager/updater. > > > What I find interesting is how strongly you speak of FreeBSD's power. > You have to replace it with two Linux distributions, greatly expanding > your management overhead. > Hehe. Not really - for work it's CentOS. I decided to try Debian for myself on my personal server. Even if it weren't though, I'd still be glad to skip portupgrade and friends. I will miss ipfw and netgraph on the other hand.