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Date:      Tue, 10 Apr 2012 16:47:41 +0200
From:      Pietro Cerutti <gahr@FreeBSD.org>
To:        araujo@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        bapt@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, Frederic Culot <culot@freebsd.org>, cvs-ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/games/8kingdoms Makefile ports/misc/airoflash Makefile ports/graphics/autopano-sift Makefile ports/x11/avant-window-navigator-xfce4 Makefile ports/lang/boo Makefile ports/x11/cl-clx-sbcl Makefile ports/palm/coldsync ...
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On 2012-Apr-10, 11:20, Marcelo Araujo wrote:
> 2012/4/10 Pietro Cerutti <gahr@freebsd.org>
> >
> >
> > I might agree on that. But how is a DEPRECATED port better than a BROKEN
> > one in this regard?
> >
> >
> In my point of view, no make sense have a bunch of ports that actually
> doesn't works or because there is a fetch problem or even it is set as
> BROKEN. Who never was upset when need and find a port but it is BROKEN for
> some reason, In my view, have a port BROKEN or haven't it, is the same. Of
> course, I mean when a port is BROKEN for all plataforms as well as for all
> FreeBSD version.

I agree on that.

>=20
> I believe set it as DEPRECATED is a good way to make the maintainer take
> attention to fix it soon as possible, due he has put effort to insert this
> software on the ports tree in the past.

What about submitting a PR, as we usually do for anything else? If it's
ok to wait 15 days (maintainer timeout) to commit an update to a port
that brings in important features, it is even more so to wait to
deprecate one.

> In case that has any issue related with the ports framework that make the
> ports be broken, he can ping any developer to give him more time to fix or
> even rollback the DEPRECATED commit with a proper message on the commit's
> log.

This is awkward. We're not supposed to spend our time rolling back
unwanted commits. We're supposed to make sure that a commit made to
someone else's port is wanted in the first place.

> It also will let us know, what's happen with that port and maybe someone
> else could give a hand to help the maintainer to fix it.

Well, as I see it, marking a port as DEPRECATED is kind of a final
decision. I.e., I'll start to look at alternatives and forget about it.
If you mark a port as DEPRECATED and 12 hours later I back off your
chance with a comment "I'm working on it", a really unconsistent and
confused message will pass.

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Pietro Cerutti
The FreeBSD Project
gahr@FreeBSD.org

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