From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 20 12: 1:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177BF37B479 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:01:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKK14B81892; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:01:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3A18304B.689C2CFE@glue.umd.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:01:37 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Brandon Fosdick Subject: Re: Dangerously Dedicated Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 19-Nov-00 Brandon Fosdick wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: >> >> On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 12:32:16PM -0500, Brandon Fosdick wrote: >> > So we're going to be stuck with MS style partitions on machines that only >> > run >> > FreeBSD? I don't like this idea. >> >> Can you tell why?? Just because it is "MS style partitions"?? > > Using what I consider to be a artifact of another operating system on a > machine > that doesn't use that OS seems silly to me. Unless, of course, that artifact > has > some useful feature(s) or functionality. If it does, I'm all ears. > >> BTW, slices aren't "MS style partitions", but "PC BIOS style partitions". >> As long as people insist on using Intel based computers, slices are >> demanded. Run FreeBSD on an Alpha if you don't like the idea of the PC >> BIOS 4-slot partition table with boundaries on cylinders and MBR. > > I'm a little confused here. Why are slices demanded by the Intel > arhictecture? > We've been successfully using DD mode for years now, if slices are "demanded" > what kind of voodoo have we been using? They are demanded by the BIOS, not the CPU. And we have been using seriously ugly voodoo involving a fake, invalid slice table that relied on certain equations to work out certain ways that violated the de facto standard for the way slices are laid out. As a result, some newer BIOS's choke on a DD disk. This has been discussed to death in the archives, please go read the 10 prior copies of this discussion there. Thank you. This thread should die. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message