From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 14:43:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747C6106566C; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from mx.ams1.isc.org (mx.ams1.isc.org [IPv6:2001:500:60::65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0329A8FC15; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:43:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bikeshed.isc.org (bikeshed.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:d::19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.isc.org", Issuer "RapidSSL CA" (not verified)) by mx.ams1.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8ADC55F9A89; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:820:c588:5ff7:ad63:7bd2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by bikeshed.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B4B98216C3D; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:42:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1C121489D2; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 00:42:47 +1000 (EST) To: Erich From: Mark Andrews References: <2188078.y2TVGRxzTH@x220.ovitrap.com> <20120605060950.GC32448@lonesome.com> <1541214.ZfRdXxb0Qe@x220.ovitrap.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:31:56 +0700." <1541214.ZfRdXxb0Qe@x220.ovitrap.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 00:42:47 +1000 Message-Id: <20120605144247.6C1C121489D2@drugs.dv.isc.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mx.ams1.isc.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Chris Rees , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon , "O. Hartmann" , Adam Strohl Subject: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:43:07 -0000 In message <1541214.ZfRdXxb0Qe@x220.ovitrap.com>, Erich writes: > Hi, > > On 05 June 2012 1:09:50 Mark Linimon wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote: > > > All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid tag), > > > only apply to the src/ tree. The ports/, doc/, and www/ trees are not > > > branched. > > > > If you create a branch, you must create a tag for that branch. > > > > However, you can create a tag without creating a branch. That is what > > is done for the ports tree. > > > I found now the location where this information is missing for beginners. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html > > I simply cannot believe that beginners would expect this information to find > this in the section for updating the kernel. > > Erich Because, while you believe it is better to roll back to the release point it really isn't. The ports tree is rarely broken for long. When it is broken people will tell you to roll back to a good date and give you the date to use. I've had to roll back a couple of times in 11+ years of updating and never to a release point. What is there is good advice. Use a up-to-date ports tree. If it is broken wait a days or so and try again. If it is still broken report the problem using send-pr. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org