From nobody Thu Apr 4 17:55:05 2024 X-Original-To: dev-commits-ports-all@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4V9TmG0Fbpz5FhWH; Thu, 4 Apr 2024 17:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4V9TmF6rn3z4n4y; Thu, 4 Apr 2024 17:55:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1712253310; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=j5LPoxF9MHO/hDPNJnTuLgxmrIUcMmrx0S8YVgjhuEI=; b=P3N2aIMsdhXJk8RQL8cBTaqUlJzBOsLBT3U1cujwP/rrd+D60XwITgc3+Npdn/bl7KK+qn g3i7wuf8ZNgeLMhL3TEMBMP95wLJw+IfthbNxLwNsZsz5dP+ZjTVizdzQ7iBDQqkNtXbS6 zMwKsZqS9OS8F9i3UgmraVjpOdXDVnVWQm+pfvDJ3qiCqRI0+kPWc7hRKGzUxlPEbKWLoQ I9tKDAc1AxlC+GmPCx61Gr7z0ZPsQ4W7q0iaVYQ6bRMjawm6dxMC8/80W3cX/+OkdWGlK4 OCgg1vFilXkMK5FWZCzvW4pyb05pe6USuajjXZAu3QJ7RFAyvpP7scC314AoBA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1712253310; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=GPuSwPiEbtZAHfI9L9jZ7jGS85LaQNT3kvkUwU8sF4d7pVZeufv852dhcpAKN8CJftKuU1 Skpd/Uukf7x8wlH7qEMZLu4T+8CDe6CqhJ6QUrf1GS30iI5gL6We8KAi89rOtjDHx9wK8t t4FSZkFc900AEXImZ7Hh3pEUBNq7ZloOxsnM80kiDQjLpfUiVnv02rrFv0x32GrhFYc4xp ZstNNbWnhEPXT1ejHT2NUOSAdAd+OIDlJVinMyoh3YF5sWHMvI8CH73I63Sr7YRH7155+d DHG2pL+c3awFxpTbkaGss+oy1dSBru2qxTOASI8gfZz5yQVMbGdv0u20/IKuQg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1712253310; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=j5LPoxF9MHO/hDPNJnTuLgxmrIUcMmrx0S8YVgjhuEI=; b=a0MVFjK1UL3IaU20soWRKhZxfXXh6FbNx34eKJCJZlPANCsKY7ferlUp+m0FX7zwlF2HMp HgH18OVV4XHlknoHsBXkLfH2nnG4KeY5qIK2QnjWVWn/lctCOSPs1279bz+lSnysnssKAn zp+8mxOkx+0Pk5kNvEqGPsZlyNHKOZ3YFyU1/d/FIcj0nHzok+EIexDj+iWAxDFr/DCcPg zy6zO9dZuHlWRGUCgsqiPe1v2Sn7V0FpRrt0fQks2AZkGVi+R6UmjVm+RKBklKY0myL4kU WlmjULZfO1kOCjp/fmAH5weyfrIwYNuf87fdhlZrVsf8FqKlh/zVt+a0k2Da1w== Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1354) id D499B1B257; Thu, 4 Apr 2024 17:55:09 +0000 (UTC) From: Jan Beich To: Emmanuel Vadot Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , ports-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-branches@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: 77f72c463b90 - 2024Q1 - x11-servers/xwayland-devel: backport recent secfixes In-Reply-To: <20240404174208.2eaefae74933715eeb31ccbc@bidouilliste.com> (Emmanuel Vadot's message of "Thu, 4 Apr 2024 17:42:08 +0200") References: <202404040955.4349tDrM089062@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20240404125743.1e52876a69053b726cb456e4@bidouilliste.com> <8r1t-ny0j-wny@FreeBSD.org> <20240404141239.35d54535539b66cd6336ee5b@bidouilliste.com> <7chd-l2ru-wny@FreeBSD.org> <20240404151554.04340786db8562e522f7b1a8@bidouilliste.com> <8r1t-chhu-wny@FreeBSD.org> <20240404174208.2eaefae74933715eeb31ccbc@bidouilliste.com> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2024 19:55:05 +0200 Message-ID: <4jch-t3ly-wny@FreeBSD.org> List-Id: Commit messages for all branches of the ports repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-ports-all List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Emmanuel Vadot writes: > On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 16:47:09 +0200 > Jan Beich wrote: > >> Baptiste Daroussin writes: >> >> > On Thu 04 Apr 15:48, Jan Beich wrote: >> > >> >> Emmanuel Vadot writes: >> >> >> >> >> but also introduced a number of regressions that >> >> >> don't exist in my port, all of which were documented in my reviews. >> >> > >> >> > What regressions ? I'm using xwayland for more than a year on my >> >> > desktop instead of -devel and haven't seen a problem. >> >> >> >> Try diff xwayland{,-devel}/Makefile: >> >> - Missing XSECURITY (ssh -X vs. ssh -Y; xorg-server parity per bug 221984) >> >> - Missing XDMCP (xorg-server parity, maybe used with rootful Xwayland and GUI login managers) >> >> - Missing XTEST input emulation (XDG Portal API, required by GNOME, Plasma and maybe rootful Xwayland) >> >> - Missing CSD for rootful (mainly for GNOME, optional even if preferred elsewhere) > > All those options could be added. The main reason that they are not is > that x11-server/xwayland isn't used by anyone but me as it requires > patching ports to use it. So obviously if they aren't needed for my > case no one will stand up and ask for them to be enabled. > Another way to view this is that you enabled all those options without > consulting anyone, why would you you might ask, it's your port ? Well > yes but since this port is forced to be used by everyone enabling > option and dependencies should be a concensus between multiple users. > For some, (like XSECURITY) you've explained in the commit message so > that's good at least. Other like CSD was enabled without anything in > the commit message except that this was an update, this is not good. - XDMCP was enabled (auto-detection) in xwayland up until 5f87249229d3 - xwayland-devel was created before 5f87249229d3 thus used xwayland and xorg-server from back then as the reference for feature defaults - CSD and EI are enabled due upstream default (auto-detection) and as part of "batteries included" policy for binary packages >> >> - Broken on DragonFly due to forcing -Dsha1 (already default after I've fixed upstream bug years ago) > > I don't care about Dragonfly, they are grown ups and can manage their > own ports. Sure but the option is redundant on FreeBSD. libmd is already preferred and auto-detected over OpenSSL, nettle or gcrypt. > Lol, very bold of you to say this as all your ports forced on others > follow your views. Sure but the proposal is no different. Under the guise of changing to a stable version of dependency you also want to change maintainership into one that benefits you. For example, all these x11@ updates you land haven't been submitted through Bugzilla for peer review. > I think that you should fork the ports tree to JanPorts, do your stuff > there and for the FreeBSD ports tree please start engaging discussion > with the community, you are not alone. Bug 244016 is an example discussion. Looks civil? Now look at bug 276614. Many years have passed but I see x11@ culture of brandishing authority hasn't disappeared.