From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Sep 29 20:59:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F0A37B403 for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2001 20:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.247.143.253.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.247.143.253]) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA17294; Sat, 29 Sep 2001 20:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3BB69897.28A203AB@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 20:59:19 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Richards Cc: Rahul Siddharthan , Salvo Bartolotta , Konstantinos Konstantinidis , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: helping victims of terror References: <1001447850.3bb0e1aa11dfc@webmail.neomedia.it> <20010925222900.A71817@lpt.ens.fr> <3BB216E8.89F3419@mindspring.com> <20010926202630.C10954@lpt.ens.fr> <20010926204026.D10954@lpt.ens.fr> <3BB42B36.7E66988D@mindspring.com> <427130000.1001716143@lobster.originative.co.uk> <3BB61EEC.FDF9BA9F@mindspring.com> <726390000.1001791938@lobster.originative.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Paul Richards wrote: > >> > If the sanctions are so problematic, there is an easy way to > >> > end them: Saddam the great humanitarian could step down. > >> > >> Saddam's a very popular leader in Iraq. His people think he does a good > >> job of standing up to US oppression. > >> > >> The people don't want him to step down, it's the US that wants that and > >> about the only support they have in that view is the UK. All the other > >> allies from the Gulf war gave up supporting the US' crusade against > >> Saddam a long time ago. > > > > I guess the sanctions aren't as problematic as people have > > been suggesting, then... > > How does that follow? Are you not reading the same conversation I am? The direct implication of the statement to which I was responding was that the sanctions were tolerable, from the point of view of the people of Iraq. This follows from their tolerance of them. > Sanctions strengthen the population's support for Saddam because they see > him as defending them against US oppression which is symbolised by the > sanctions imposed on them. These sanctions are typical of non-sensical US > foreign policy in that the outcome is the exact opposite of what is hoped > for. I don't agree with your conclusions here, but if I did, then it would only support the argument that the sanctions are a burden they are prepared to bear. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message