From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jun 19 20:23:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA06781 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 20:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06773 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 20:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.184.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.5/(97/05/21 3.30)) id XAA25202; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:22:24 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from shag (ts001d11.sal-ut.concentric.net [206.173.156.23]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.8.5) id XAA17039; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33A9F720.5E39DDD6@concentric.net> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:21:04 -0600 From: Joshua Fielden Organization: Shaggy Enterprises X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Griffith CC: joelh@gnu.ai.mit.edu, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status on LS-120 drive support? (moving to chat...) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199706200206.WAA10557@smtp.interlog.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Paul Griffith wrote: > > > >Macs recently started using IDE. But I don't know how well the > >(laughable) ATAPI/IDE standard handles cross-platform issues. > > > >Happy hacking, > >joelh > > The Macs notebooks all now have internal IDE HD and CDROMS, but all there > current computers have external SCSI. On the higher end Mac it's all SCSI, > internal and external. Apple has set ATAPI/IDE for it's PB, home, and > educational due to lower cost factor. > > Paul Griffith > BTW: Some of the Macs now come standard with SCSI Zip drives. > Well, I was working at FWB when they put out their EIDE/IDE-capable Hard Disk Toolkit and CDROM toolkit, so I saw a lot of testing, and a lot of data. The Mac-based implementation of IDE is hoky at best, but almost 100% of drives that work on PC's will work on Macs. The problem for an IDE non-hd is getting a driver for said drive. Oh, and as an aside, Apple also chose the IDE drive for powerbooks because of power needs vs. performance. That's also the reason there hasn't been an internal terminator since the 5300/190/2300, and that all internal terminators on PowerBooks have been hoky at best. -- SCSI is *not* magic. There are many technical reasons why it is occasionally nessicary to sacrifice a small goat to your SCSI chain. --Joshua Fielden