From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 27 22:01:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DDD106566B for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp05.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp05.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.153.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E664E8FC18 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:01:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c83-255-51-20.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.51.20]:29934 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp05.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.73) (envelope-from ) id 1QFCnd-0001pG-HT for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 00:01:35 +0200 Received: (qmail 18876 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2011 23:54:52 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 27 Apr 2011 23:54:52 +0200 Received: (qmail 32174 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Apr 2011 23:54:52 +0200 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 23:54:52 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Eitan Adler Message-ID: <20110427215452.GA32138@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <20110426163424.GB38579@comcast.net> <20110426141209.0d07bccf@seibercom.net> <20110426184315.GA2320@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <19895.13977.553973.609431@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <4DB83D6E.9000800@aldan.algebra.com> <4DB876AE.9050906@aldan.algebra.com> <20110427204723.GA74591@atarininja.org> <4DB882C8.8090604@aldan.algebra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.51.20 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1QFCnd-0001pG-HT. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp05.sth.basefarm.net 1QFCnd-0001pG-HT 4e228d245335f4222b45dd655a3fd01a Cc: "Mikhail T." , Robert Huff , Wesley Shields , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Chip Camden Subject: Re: saving a few ports from death X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:01:48 -0000 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 05:05:57PM -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: > >> apache13 is EOL upstream. We should not have ports for EOL software. > > > > Why not, exactly?.. > > What happens if a security hole or a bug is found? Are we the ones to > fix it? If yes are we to host the patches? Where should the bug > reports go to - our bug tracker? What if our implementation ceases to > match established documentation? Should we host the docs too? "We"? Who is this "we" you keep talking about here? If a port has a security hole then it is up to the maintainer to find a fix for it - if this fix is a patch he/she comes up with or a switch to a newer upstream version is irrelevant. If there is no maintainer and nobody else provides a fix either, it is time to mark the port as FORBIDDEN and DEPRECATED and remove it after the deprecation period expires, just like how other broken ports are handled. > > The ports collection is one of *third party* software (with a couple > of small exceptions). If the third party says "this program is done, > has bugs which won't be fixed, etc" we should no longer support it. Depends on what you mean by "support", but removing a port just because upstream development has ceased is just plain silly. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se