From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 17:06:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09AE16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:06:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trickle.cc.mcgill.ca (trickle.CC.McGill.CA [132.206.27.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF8843D39 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:06:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mat@cnd.mcgill.ca) Received: from mailscan1.cc.mcgill.ca (mailscan1.CC.McGill.CA [132.216.77.248])j2HH60sT013673; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:06:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from cube.cnd.mcgill.ca (cube.CND.McGill.CA [132.216.25.196]) j2HH5hnf008766; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:05:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (acid.cnd.mcgill.ca [132.216.11.151]) by cube.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2HH5grw031760; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:05:43 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (acid [127.0.0.1]) j2HH5fkO030270; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:05:42 -0500 Received: (from mat@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j2HH5fP9030269; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:05:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:05:40 -0500 From: Mathew Kanner To: Kevin Downey Message-ID: <20050317170540.GC28457@cnd.mcgill.ca> References: <1d3ed48c050316135165eb38bb@mail.gmail.com> <20050316215732.GA28457@cnd.mcgill.ca> <1d3ed48c050317073844cffd00@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1d3ed48c050317073844cffd00@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Organization: I speak for myself, operating in Montreal, CANADA cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Joy X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:06:17 -0000 On Mar 17, Kevin Downey wrote: > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:57:32 -0500, Mathew Kanner wrote: > > On Mar 16, Kevin Downey wrote: > > > So, I got this cheap old used microsoft gamepad of some > > > kind(sidewinder?). It plugs into the "game port" on the sound card. I > > > figure all I will have to do is kldload a module or few to get it > > > running. So kldload joy and nada. Does device joy need to be in the > > > kernel? is joy.ko just a siren's song of impossibilities to lure the > > > ignorant? > > > > Been a long time since I've though about joy. Anyway, I seem > > to recall that you need a hint to enable joy since it's ISA and not > > PNP. Is it there? Is it commented out? (Away from my freebsd > > machine) > > > > --Mat > > I see. > I have not found a device.hints line for joy. Well, I have found > several "suggested" joy device.hints lines such as: > hints.joy.0.at="pci0" > hints.joy.0.at="isa" > I found these while mucking around with google. Now I am pretty sure > the ISA deal is not the way to go because, well, its a pci sound card. Gameports are wierd. For now, unless you card is emu10k1, then ISA *is* the way to go, but you need some more information for the kernel hint. I'll try to look it up tonight but more likely will have time on saturday. > But I have tried both of them anyway. Next I will try put device joy > in the kernel(instead of kldload joy). Now looking around in the BIOS > has lead me to associate the string "200-207H" with the gameport, and > it seems like this might be something useful, but gosh, I dunno. Using loadable modules should be exactly the same as compilling into the kernel, so, I would not recommend that. --Mat --