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To: dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk
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Subject: Re: tkdesk, pr ports/5282 and tcl
From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami)
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 * I've just recevied a couple of emails re the tkdesk-1,0b5 port that 
 * was committed last weekend. It ain't working.

That's not good. :<

 * As I rasied in the tcl thread last week there is lots of 
 * Tcl code depending on stuff like itcl which is not tcl8.x compatible.

Yeah.  They come up with so many new versions that are not backward
compatible it's almost a joke.  I'm going to back-port ports/misc/kp
to Motif when I have time.  It used to be a Motif program, I ported it
to tcl/tk back in the 7.3/3.6 days to make it usable for more people.

Bad, bad idea.  I have to keep fixing the port as new versions of
tcl/tk always seem to break it.

 * This is not something porters can fix for the original authors*, and
 * should committers change the submitted port without checking with the 
 * port author and obviously not testing it.

You are right, and this will be fixed shortly (thanks Steve! :).  My
apologies.

But please understand, not many porters submit upgrades as regularly
as you, and we are sometimes forced to do a mass exodus ourselves to
try to reduce the number of dependent tcl/tk installations on the
users' machines.

This is a problem with no "right" solution....

 * *For example; tkdesk is based on its own version of a hacked
 * version of an early version of itcl which will never ever work
 * in Tcl8.0. The TkDesk author reckons that is going to be
 * about 2months work to get it to work with the current version of
 * itcl and he knows the code!

I hope there won't be a new version of tcl/tk in the next 2 months! :p

Satoshi

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