From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 23 16:24:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DBF1065695 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james-freebsd-current@jrv.org) Received: from zimbra.jrv.org (rrcs-24-73-246-106.sw.biz.rr.com [24.73.246.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9588FC29 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:24:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.jrv.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950A016A070; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:15:25 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.housenet.jrv Received: from zimbra.jrv.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.housenet.jrv [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KKsYMMI-JIqi; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:15:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.0.2.15] (adsl-99-66-60-250.dsl.aus2tx.sbcglobal.net [99.66.60.250]) by zimbra.jrv.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B3C1D16A04E; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:15:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4D65328D.3050709@jrv.org> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:15:09 -0600 From: "James R. Van Artsdalen" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Jeremy References: <4D35CFFB.3010302@freebsd.org> <201102211612.51233.josh@tcbug.org> <201102220103.20158.josh@tcbug.org> <20110222205741.GA34103@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20110222205741.GA34103@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Devin Teske , freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installer Roadmap X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:24:27 -0000 On 2/22/2011 2:57 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > When that does come, it will probably be driven by BIOS and hardware > vendors dropping support for MBR. MBR is not a BIOS concept. MBR is an OS thing. The BIOS does not care or know what kind of partitioning you use, or if you partition at all. A GPT disk with FreeBSD should boot fine on a quarter-century-old IBM PC/AT, until FreeBSD's "don't support 80286" message. There may be SSDs that know about MBR - I don't know - but otherwise hardware does not care either. >> We've yet to see a "must have" technology that would require us to >> shun sysinstall (as explained earlier, we have no desire whatsoever >> to boot from ZFS, gmirror, geli, GPT, or anything else missing from >> sysinstall). Two vendors have released 3 TB disks and there will be more large disks released before 9.0-RELEASE. sysinstall needs to behave well with them. As stated, it's common to boot from ZFS, mirrors, or GPT disks. These aren't blocker issues now.