From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 13:05:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7398106566B for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 13:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BB08FC16 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 13:05:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from russet.local (reflex.squiz.co.uk [83.217.109.164]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4JD506Q091161 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 19 May 2011 14:05:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p4JD506Q091161 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1305810301; bh=iKcdFiaeC5LivwPAdpEDicDQY2yp+jG4IXJB5xlc0Z4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4DD51577.6080006@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T hu,=2019=20May=202011=2014:04:55=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.17)=20Gecko/20110414=20Thunderbird/3.1.10|MIME-Version:=20 1.0|To:=20rotkap@gmx.de,=20freebsd-ports@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re :=20New=20perl,=20why=20not:=20perl-after-upgrade|References:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.1.1|Content-Type:=20multipa rt/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"applicatio n/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig137EA9F481 449D611402F091"; b=xxusKa/9DlJBp0AxXL9JET1PsKkgOGi9+2ZRfULX7tRVFuEjXPfH8s9xdQe/tcWyI XixZqi6PSO7tk750X7zOFYrhnT9Fk6WpxapsQ5pky59ea2kLTWkkRCUR6DNlR7VqaP p9R382NDH00JYEk0IrIdBqjUjz0/abefJMSGAfcI= X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host reflex.squiz.co.uk [83.217.109.164] claimed to be russet.local Message-ID: <4DD51577.6080006@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 14:04:55 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rotkap@gmx.de, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig137EA9F481449D611402F091" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Subject: Re: New perl, why not: perl-after-upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 13:05:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig137EA9F481449D611402F091 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19/05/2011 09:30, Heino Tiedemann wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Is there e reason why in ports/UPDATING is this mentioned: >=20 > ,----[ 20110517 ] > | 0) Fix pkgdb.db (for safety): pkgdb -Ff > | 1) Reinstall new version of Perl (5.14): env DISABLE_CONFLICTS=3D1 po= rtupgrade ... > | 2) Reinstall everything that depends on Perl: ... > `---- >=20 >=20 > and not this: >=20 > ,----[ man perl-after-upgrade ] > | The standard procedure after a perl port (lang/perl5.X) upgrade is to= > | basically reinstall all other packages that depend on perl. This is > | always a painful exercise. The perl-after-upgrade utility makes this= > | process mostly unnecessary. > `---- Because upgrading from perl-5.10 or perl-5.12 to perl-5.14 is a very different proposition to upgrading from perl-5.10.0 to perl-5.10.1 (which is the sort of change where perl-after-upgrade is useful.) Principally there's no guarantee of binary compatibility for loadable modules across that large a version bump. As quite a big proportion of perl modules do involve loadable shared object code, which will have to be recompiled, it is simpler to just recompile everything --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig137EA9F481449D611402F091 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3VFXwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxy2wCfaHyvS/J7Wg0wD+cJCyyCy/xk hFMAoI0TjA+IgABM7l9vc6mNoN2J7Z+d =BvLX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig137EA9F481449D611402F091--