From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 28 00:46:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCCAD9C3380 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:46:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93746F56 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:46:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-38-7.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.38.7]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C68F72783F; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 02:46:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t7S0khpV002668; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 02:46:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 02:46:43 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Quartz Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stop using a SATA drive Message-Id: <20150828024643.c0d5d2dd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <55DFAB0B.7020307@sneakertech.com> References: <20150824214252.53aa04c6.freebsd@edvax.de> <55DEF869.1010202@sneakertech.com> <20150828000118.31f33a35.freebsd@edvax.de> <55DFA213.4030304@sneakertech.com> <20150828020029.c3c53813.freebsd@edvax.de> <55DFAB0B.7020307@sneakertech.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:46:45 -0000 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 20:27:55 -0400, Quartz wrote: > > This is possible. > > OK, well my question (via Chris' original question) was, is there > currently a port or package that actually implements this? Not that I am aware of. Maybe some specific (vendor-supplied) control software for disk controllers ("RAID controllers") can do this? > > However, in regards of disk drives, I wouldn't call this > > procedure "eject", but maybe better "detach". > > I'm not a fan of "eject" either, but that's Apple for you. They've > always been weird about this sort of mental model; in both OSX GUI and > classic Mac OS you drag the disk icon into the trash to unmount it. More > than a few new users were very nervous about that. There was also a menu entry: "eject floppy disk", and additionally a keyboard shortcut. I was impressed when I was this on my first Mac systems - the disk would "magically" come out, there was no mechanical button for it. Even the Sun Sparc Station 20 and the Ultra 1 had such kind of floppy disk drive. :-) > >In retrospect, > > ye olde "atacontrol" _had_ this functionality. See the dusty > > historic manual for details. :-) > > Wait, so this functionality existed but was removed? What was the > reasoning behind that? The deprecation of the old ATA/ATAPI subsystem for accessing disks and optical units. Today, the "SCSI over ATA" (previously optional kernel mechanism ATAPICAM) is being used, so atacontrol doesn't exist anymore - camcontrol is to be used. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...