From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Feb 11 17: 1:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3933ED3 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:01:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24116; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:44:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpdAAA3da4aV; Fri Feb 11 17:44:50 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA28142; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:44:47 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200002120044.RAA28142@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: MSNBC article To: bright@wintelcom.net (Alfred Perlstein) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 00:44:46 +0000 (GMT) Cc: des@flood.ping.uio.no (Dag-Erling Smorgrav), jameso@omaha.com (Jim), freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000209112600.X17536@fw.wintelcom.net> from "Alfred Perlstein" at Feb 09, 2000 11:26:00 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > * Dag-Erling Smorgrav [000209 09:38] wrote: > > Jim writes: > > > http://www.msnbc.com/msn/367495.asp > > > [...] > > > Comments? > > > > It's not a vulnerability, it's a DoS. A little worse than a simple > > flooder, but not much. MSNBC's explanation of how it works is > > incorrect, too - what confuses the router is the destination address > > on the ACK packet (since the packet it ACKs has a random source > > address). There is no argument between the router and the server about > > what's happening. > > Can you guys check the story again? > I get pushed to: http://www.msnbc.com/msn/367495.asp > > I can't find 'BSD' or 'cooper' anywhere on the page, and hints? :) I took him to task on technical grounds in private email; this may have had something to do with it. That's the beauty of the web -- "We have always been at war with the East -- look at our news archives...". Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message