From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 11 07:44:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26AD16A4DE for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 07:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nocturnal@swehack.se) Received: from mail2.swebase.com (mail2.swebase.com [82.99.44.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4787C43D53 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 07:44:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocturnal@swehack.se) Received: from [82.99.47.5] by mail2.swebase.com (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.0.R) with ESMTP id 33-md50000045229.msg for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 09:43:47 +0200 Message-ID: <44B3567C.5080000@swehack.se> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 09:42:52 +0200 From: nocturnal User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= References: <44B20BC6.3050600@swehack.se> <44B266A3.9070309@locolomo.org> <44B2777B.5@swehack.se> <44B2CA13.2030804@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <44B2CA13.2030804@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Authenticated-Sender: nocturnal@swehack.se X-MDRemoteIP: 82.99.47.5 X-Return-Path: nocturnal@swehack.se X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail2 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Processed: mail2.swebase.com, Tue, 11 Jul 2006 09:43:47 +0200 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alt Gr key troubles in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 07:44:05 -0000 Hi I was afraid you wouldn't understand how the problem works. The chacters work on this computer, or i wouldn't be able to work daily with it, but at times they just get stuck and refuse to work temporarily until i let go of the alt gr key and try again. At rare times i can let go of the alt gr key to try again but they wont work until after two or three attempts. I doubt this is happening at random so i would like to say it happens when i type fast and change key combinations fast but sometimes it happens when i type slower to. I think it has something to do with me using shift just before i switch over and use alt gr, i think i'm simply switching over too fast. Actually, now that i said that, i just tried it in the thunderbird application where i'm writing this e-mail and i was able to reproduce the problem by typing a bunch of uppercase characters holding the shift key down and then directly trying to type [ using alt gr+8 on my keyboard. What happened was i got no character output for the [ character and after holding it for a while i heard a beep, then i let go of alt gr and 8 was output. It's probably because shift+8 is supposed to produce the ( character while alt gr+8 produces the [ character so there's some kinda conflict when i don't let go of shift fast enough. My theory is that i was so used to Windows after years of using it that this happened to me a lot. I also suspect that the Windows driver that handles this is more developed in the sense that you can hit shift+alt gr+8 but if those keys have no kombination in that order it simply takes the last keys which had a combination and uses them, alt gr+8 that is. I'm just guessing of course. Med vänliga hälsningar Stefan Midjich aka nocturnal [Swehack] http://swehack.se Erik Nørgaard wrote: > nocturnal wrote: > >> Well i usually use vim and it's hard to know if it happens in other >> applications, because i use vim so much compared to the other >> applications and also because i mostly write those characters in vim. I >> do use FreeBSD at home to and i can't remember any problems from writing >> e-mails or chatting on irc. I use rxvt for all my terminal applications. >> Of course this could simply mean i don't use those characters much in >> those applications. I used to use nedit, before vim, and i am sure i had >> the same problem in nedit. > > Well, could you to narrow in on the problem try and test these things? > > 0th: Tell us your keyboard settings in XF86Config (model and layout) > > 1st: List the characters that you have problem with - obviously you need > a computer that doesn't suffer this problem :) > > 2nd: Try to type all these characters with the correct key-combinations, > > - In the console > - In xterm > - In vi (not vim) > - In xemacs/emacs > - In firefox or thunderbird - any place you can type > > Then maybe someone can point you closer to the solution. > > Cheers, Erik