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Date:      Mon, 13 Apr 1998 00:30:45 +0800 (SGT)
From:      chas <panda@peace.com.my>
To:        rotel@indigo.ie, Steve Hovey <shovey@buffnet.net>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: more than 32k users
Message-ID:  <3.0.32.19980413005259.011936b0@peace.com.my>

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Sorry, this just makes me wonder :

If yahoo is using FreeBSD for its services (and I presume
that that is its free email service), how could they ramp
up to millions of users all supposedly on the same machine
(since everyone has the email address : user@yahoo.com).

I'm sure they're using IMAPd (beats DB programming for 
managing folders etc) so they would have had to get around
any limit on the number of users on a machine.

As for disk-space, my mind boggles. 

chas



>On Apr 11,  8:56pm, Steve Hovey wrote:
>} Subject: more than 32k users
>> 
>> I know this has been asked before, but Ill be dipped if I can find the
>> answer.
>> 
>> Is it possible to increase the maximum number of unix ids over 32k so that
>> one can have over 32k users in /etc/passwd?
>
>>From looking at the header files I see that uid_t (the data type
>used to represent the UID in the kernel and elsewhere) is an unsigned
>32 bit integer meaning that this is possible in theory as long as
>no programs have assumed anything about the size of uid_t.  pwd_mkdb
>doesn't like UID's > USHRT_MAX, but will allow you to use them.
>
>I have created a user with UID = 100000, and it certainly doesn't
>break anything instaneously :)
>
>[root@ginseng /etc]# tail -1 /etc/passwd 
>foo:*:100000:100000:Niall Smart,Somewhere
Someplace:/home/nsmart:/usr/local/bin/zsh
>[root@ginseng /etc]# su foo
>[foo@ginseng /etc]$ id
>uid=100000(foo) gid=100000 groups=100000
>
>You might like to ask in -hackers about this,  if you're in an
>environment where you can experiment with this then I'd so go ahead
>and try it.
>
>Beware that any programs which do not use uid_t portably (i.e.
>assume it can only go up to 65536) will probably have security
>problems if you use uid's > 65536 because the variable they
>store the UID in will wrap around.
>
>So, in summary, there is nothing preventing this on the kernel
>side and correctly written programs should handle it, but be
>careful - try and find someone else who is doing this! :)
>
>Niall
>
>-- 
>Niall Smart.  Microsoft Suck.  See www.freebsd.org for details.
>echo "#define if(x) if(!(x))" >> /usr/include/stdio.h
>
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