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Date:      Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:29:54 -0500
From:      Robert Noland <rnoland@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Dominic Fandrey <kamikaze@bsdforen.de>
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: xorg upgrade and /etc/ttys regression
Message-ID:  <1233084594.1981.24.camel@wombat.2hip.net>
In-Reply-To: <497F5F68.3090308@bsdforen.de>
References:  <20090127190217.de1802b5.lehmann@ans-netz.de> <497F5F68.3090308@bsdforen.de>

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On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 20:24 +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
> Oliver Lehmann wrote:
> > Hi,
> >=20
> > I've used to start my login manager with /etc/ttys for years now (After=
 I
> > considered myself became to lazy to type startx).
> >=20
> > After yesterdays xorg upgrade I've noticed, that the login manager whic=
h
> > comes up right after going to multiuser has no working mouse or keyboar=
d
> > support. This is probably because the login manager gets started by
> > /sbin/init which uses getttyent which parses /etc/ttys. This all happen=
s
> > before hald is being started which is the problem here.
>=20
> /etc/ttys is the very last thing in the boot process.
>=20
> >=20
> > So the solution seems to be to drop/remove login manager startups
> > from /etc/ttys and move over to rc.d startup.
>=20
> It's much more likely that hald isn't working properly. Even if hald
> started late, as soon as it started, your mouse and keyboard would
> start working as soon as hald detects them (that's the whole point
> of using hald, runtime detection).

I think the root of the issue here is that X isn't able to establish a
connection to hald at startup and does not retry.  This is being
discussed on the Xorg lists some... No clear solution yet.  For the time
being hald needs to start before Xorg.  Restarting hald after X is up
however doesn't seem to be an issue.

robert.

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