From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sat Sep 10 09:35:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACE3BD1018 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 09:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from hz.grosbein.net (hz.grosbein.net [78.47.246.247]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hz.grosbein.net", Issuer "hz.grosbein.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 679C2FF0 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 09:35:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (root@eg.sd.rdtc.ru [62.231.161.221]) by hz.grosbein.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u8A9JpOt045061 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 10 Sep 2016 11:19:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: crest@rlwinm.de Received: from [10.58.0.10] (dadvw [10.58.0.10]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u8A9JhE3021828 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sat, 10 Sep 2016 16:19:43 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: vt console driver and default vga mode: breaking POLA To: Jan Bramkamp , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <6C60C067-111C-4454-8DA9-6A72F40F602D@sarenet.es> <4a0b9d1c-baa7-2596-e961-38625092c85f@rlwinm.de> From: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: <57D3D02A.3080402@grosbein.net> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 16:19:38 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4a0b9d1c-baa7-2596-e961-38625092c85f@rlwinm.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOCAL_FROM autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Report: * -2.3 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * 2.6 LOCAL_FROM From my domains X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on hz.grosbein.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 09:35:49 -0000 09.09.2016 20:59, Jan Bramkamp пишет: >> I apologise for being late on this, but I just noticed. The new vt console driver has a very important >> change in behavior, replacing the ancient “BIOS” text mode with a graphic VGA mode. >> >> I don’t know how many people relies on BIOS serial redirection for consoles, but at least >> HP’s iLO system offers the possibility of accessing the console through a ssh connection instead >> of requiring a bloated Java console, and it’s a very convenient feature. But it only works in pure >> “BIOS text mode” (the old sc console driver used this mode as a default). >> >> I would rather change the default behavior of vt to hw.vga.textmode=1 so that its behavior mimics >> the old sc driver. >> >> I know the current fad is to hide boot messages with panda bears and beautiful butterflies revolving >> around them, but boot messages are critical when diagnosing problems. >> >> I should have chimed in earlier, I know. But anyway it’s a very minor change. >> >> >> >> >> What do you think? +1 > > The presence of a ipmi* device could be a good heuristic to select the default mode. "ipmi* device" needs ipmi(4) driver in the GENERIC. And think of NVIDIA users without ipmi hardware... Loader menu option would be fine.