From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 14:15:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D849106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43C08FC16 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id fpU71d0041u4NiLA9qFprk; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:15:49 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.46.159]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id fqFo1d00D3S48mS8hqFo1l; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:15:49 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 647321E3033; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 06:15:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 06:15:47 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100209141547.GA37876@icarus.home.lan> References: <4B6F9A8D.4050907@langille.org> <2e027be01002090451w2b4506a0ofb5ab55c647540a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: hardware for home use large storage X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:15:49 -0000 On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 08:45:12AM -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > On Tue, February 9, 2010 7:51 am, Tom Evans wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Charles Sprickman wrote: > >> .... > >> Here's the list: > >> > >> http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=8441629 > >> > >> Just over $1K, and I've got 4 nice drives, ECC memory, and a server > >> board. > >> Going with the celeron saved a ton of cash with no impact on ZFS that I > >> can > >> discern, and again, going with a cheap tower case slashed the cost as > >> well. > >>  That whole combo works great.  Now when I use up those 6 SATA ports, > >> I > >> don't know how to get more cheaply, but I'll worry about that later... > >> > >> Charles > >> > > > > As long as those SATA ports are AHCI compliant, should work quite > > nicely with a SiI port multiplier. Failing that, a simple 2 port SiI > > PCI-E SATA card (supported by siis(4) driver) + 2 x SiI port > > multiplier would give you 10 extra SATA ports. > > > > My SiI PCI-E card cost £15, and the PM about £50, so it is about > > £13/port, or ~$20/port. Probably can get the components cheaper in the > > US actually. I also found some nice simple drive racks for £20/4 > > drives - not completely hotswappable, but much easier to replace than > > screwed into the case. > > Now there's an idea. Drive racks? Got a URL? http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/mobileRack/ I'd recommend staying away from anything with SAF-TE (for SCSI) or SES2 (for SAS or SATA) however. At least with regards to SCSI, I've seen quite a few of the QLogic SAF-TE chips get in the way of drive failures and start changing SCSI IDs of all the disks (yes you read that right) on the bus willy-nilly. That means that basically the CSE-M34T or CSE-M35T-1 would be good choices. Yes they come in Black. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB |