From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 19:05:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5F3B9A786 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from filippomore@yahoo.com) Received: from nm45-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm45-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.121.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE0AF1499 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from filippomore@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1468609543; bh=ggt8eigVxDRaHMWnaBZJGVTlKEzL1uOKmpxZgtlwiDE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=NmqZPp+WSb3qG4IYAsEi2AvSVfLz7B/qKmT8FbkjdJD6n40YXbY+A+vCH4zvYM/jcX3QIUlWL9hUYg09RFtiG7sM45WguVGA9lZyn2yfKVw4J/1ZkU8qVNqJQPXlr/5E4/L4ekx6s/QUgDyhk7I2MJzJ2xZ8FfFcbY+V0haHuhHFGJJInGXdIey04jcQxSiv5QdASVzxn63Ojh08WiOlf3NWrdfWg57s1SzI7IJnBbpvhqJ8LGNtbjUMJYzlHHneDsY1LXs63aF/zkKomdkATB1SxisJGdT/UavG1sdERzjEgd0xB9doYkGlOGlWEZPc7uT/YoL/ceLmc9GjOc/l1g== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm45.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 19:05:43 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.102] by nm45.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 19:02:55 -0000 Received: from [98.139.170.181] by tm101.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 19:01:55 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.244] by tm24.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 19:01:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1053.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 19:01:55 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 222810.25039.bm@omp1053.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: rUIzrYsVM1l2Zy6al4fOc_LPkPOy1Srl_YJJ7Pug0pNyHlGSlenewzsvaVcllWT P0Uc.Vt58ECU3CmT02x6QEa_amdq0aTRX5AB_aI0aHRll.gUxqinvABfcH3b5RNHSceZkA4KEMxZ nLGcOV.MgFcUMKhP2jeRRRZnYimLegWLFPMyNvNTkAjajZP40nq8Ks25SztoyE8bMBuFL16asAkQ T0TG7XeU_S1Baf.KowOotwVYJqGBXvDnCrZ4CHPTtuMWeXzD3OK2ntKBsF9eSM5BYC5.EmB7DDdo H71VFcNe7HFqhvc7maN__4mlujXuiIcVyDxa.aXR_K9J93CNWtGLpc6TO1h5Vtly58_roHtS1ZR4 EA3q7p9npXSP3R4SgnCwrWG7x.4dBbMWsJ1wfrm10vxjT.PfpVC9DrHQFU0zDC7Y_crGekzzxstN HwxIdma70HaXCR.xRfNwYv.JyWxbsw0jfWi_t8FqQ4jC5ubotokdlw9aF_Ni2S0jH1mrNpur9djx O68iAOQIu_.9gLvDhIyeKHDJFC.C8YjKnulPYVsY- Received: from jws10692.mail.bf1.yahoo.com by sendmailws131.mail.bf1.yahoo.com; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:01:54 +0000; 1468609314.760 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:01:54 +0000 (UTC) From: Filippo Moretti Reply-To: Filippo Moretti To: Karl Denninger , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <516799068.3859323.1468609314427.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <93bd3635-7be0-0fad-35e2-2a202b990a90@denninger.net> References: <1167694931.3702710.1468584584907.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1167694931.3702710.1468584584907.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <93bd3635-7be0-0fad-35e2-2a202b990a90@denninger.net> Subject: Re: Problem with FreeBSD-11.0-Beta1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:05:50 -0000 The system was installed as 11_CURRENT and I did not have any issue until A= LPHA-4.I did install everything from portsand I did install all of the /etc= during mergemaster and mergemaster -p.I do have a another disk with 10.3-S= TABLE butI never tried to run applications from current in stable or the ot= her way.Filippops I did delete an old library I rebuilt windowmaker and I h= ave no complaint about it=20 On Friday, July 15, 2016 6:31 PM, Karl Denninger w= rote: =20 On 7/15/2016 11:17, Kevin Oberman wrote: > 11.0 has not been released. You are much more likely to get a useful > response from current@. > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 5:09 AM, Filippo Moretti via freebsd-stable < > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> I have the following problem when I start the system: > > >> Unknown user name "avahi"=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 in message bus >> configuration fileUnknown user name "polkitd"=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 in message >> bus configuration file >> Unknown user name "polkitd"=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 in message bus >> configuration fileUnknown user name "colord"=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 in message >> bus configuration file >> Unknown user name "pulse"=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 in message bus >> configuration fileUnknown user name "polkit"=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 in >> message bus configuration file > Unknown user name "haldaemon"=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 in= message bus configuration file > > Failed to start message bus: > > Could not get VID and GID for username "messagebus" > > /etc/rc:Warning:failed to start dbus > > On the same computer I have a disk with 10.3_STABLE with the same >> configuration files and everything is working properly.When in X=C2=A0 I= launch >> firefox I get the following errorLibGL error: > failed to open drm device:Permission denied > > LibGL error :failed to load driver: r 300 > > This is very likely due to failure to start dbus > > sincerely > > Filippo > > > Note: I have tried to recover the mail format above. Whatever mail tool y= ou > used totally garbled things by removing line breaks. > > First, how did 11.0Beta-1 get installed? How sis your ports (X11, dbus, > pulseaudio, etc.) get installed? When moving from one major release to > another (10 to 11), you need to reinstall all ports/packages. The > installation process is what creates these"users". > > It looks like you are just trying to run the things in /usr/local from yo= ur > 10.3 system. This simply will not work. > -- > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 Actually it SHOULD work unless you deleted the old libraries (in which case it definitely won't!); the dynamic loader is smart enough to do the right thing and load the correct (older) version of the shared libraries required. If this has been broken in recent releases IMHO that's not so good.=20 There *are* instances where an older binary is all there is for a given application (e.g. from a vendor!) and thus backward compatibility when you roll forward the operating system is something that a lot of people (myself included) have both used and relied on for a very long time. Yes, I understand that you can't *count* on that working, particularly if the app in question makes explicit reference to things in the kernel environment.=C2=A0 But absent that they certainly should run. One instance where they didn't was with the armv6/armv6hf case where the floating point format changed, but that happened in the -CURRENT environment where ABI breakage is a known (and thus accepted) risk of running -CURRENT.=C2=A0 (That particular one manifested in some nasty ways too in that going the "wrong way" would result in a binary that executed, did not produce any exceptions or traps, but produced incorrect floating-point results!=C2=A0 I have code "in the wild" that chec= ks for this specific circumstance on startup "just in case"....) Now if you do perform a merge and only accept part of it you can get in a lot of trouble with user and group IDs and similar, which is what appears to have happened here.=C2=A0 It's pretty easy to get bit by that if you have local changes in your passwd and group files (and most people do), "leave them for later" and then don't go back and merge the new entries by hand.=C2=A0 That sounds like what's occurred here; check in /var/tmp, assuming you told mergemaster to keep it when done. Since the svn repo for stable/11 is now there and when checked out builds BETA1 this IMHO appears to be the right place to discuss it. --=20 Karl Denninger karl@denninger.net /The Market Ticker/ /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 19:56:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410FBB986D2 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jenkins-admin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from jenkins-9.freebsd.org (jenkins-9.freebsd.org [8.8.178.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335511639; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jenkins-admin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from jenkins-9.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jenkins-9.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A6B218; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:56:56 +0000 (GMT) From: jenkins-admin@FreeBSD.org To: jenkins-admin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <1132313545.74.1468612616124.JavaMail.jenkins@jenkins-9.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <1910762865.71.1468558639329.JavaMail.jenkins@jenkins-9.freebsd.org> References: <1910762865.71.1468558639329.JavaMail.jenkins@jenkins-9.freebsd.org> Subject: Jenkins build is still unstable: FreeBSD_stable_10 #317 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Instance-Identity: MIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAkKKb2VAfYQKfu1t7qk4nR5qzUBEI+UqT4BPec4qHVhqUy0FFdq50sMH+3y9bCDNOufctov6VqTNffZ3YXArnZK95YF0OX97fh+E9txYOUX1adc+TikcKjuYpHmL5dE62eaZTI+4A5jnRonskQ1PaoIFz0Kbu4mWzkFsmdiXTraGzomXq4cHUCATA2+K4eDYgjXEQI30z3GOMmmZ4t/+6QGk1cMb/BqMWHbn80AsRCb4tU7Hpd72XLDpsuO7YRP1Q0CjmNAuBOTj+sFiiOe6U9HpqOlQN+iFUvBdZo/ybuy5Kh71cAaYQNL68cYdZJ6binH/DkG3KY/fS7DFYAeuwjwIDAQAB X-Jenkins-Job: FreeBSD_stable_10 X-Jenkins-Result: UNSTABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:56:56 -0000 See