From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 15:58:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828AD1065674 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:58:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmarlatt@rxsec.com) Received: from core.rxsec.com (core.rxsec.com [64.132.46.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A5C48FC25 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmarlatt@rxsec.com) Received: (qmail 29613 invoked by uid 2009); 5 Jun 2008 15:47:56 -0000 Received: from 10.1.0.239 by core.rxsec.com (envelope-from , uid 2008) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.86.2/1102. spamassassin: 3.0.4. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(10.1.0.239):SA:0(-2.6/5.0):. Processed in 4.867791 secs); 05 Jun 2008 15:47:56 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 required=5.0 X-Antivirus-RXSEC-Mail-From: cmarlatt@rxsec.com via core.rxsec.com X-Antivirus-RXSEC: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(10.1.0.239):SA:0(-2.6/5.0):. Processed in 4.867791 secs Process 29587) Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.1.0.239?) (cmarlatt@rxsec.com@10.1.0.239) by core.rxsec.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2008 15:47:51 -0000 Message-ID: <48480D2E.2050006@rxsec.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:58:38 -0400 From: Chris Marlatt Organization: Receive Security User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Chadd References: <9B7FE91B-9C2E-4732-866C-930AC6022A40@netconsonance.com> <4846D849.2090005@FreeBSD.org> <4846E14C.709@FreeBSD.org> <48472CCF.8080101@FreeBSD.org> <4847EF62.1070709@rxsec.com> <4847F814.10409@FreeBSD.org> <4847FB1D.1050400@rxsec.com> <4848073C.2060509@rxsec.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:58:53 -0000 Adrian Chadd wrote: > > The OP stated "argh argh sky is falling with 6.3!" but hasn't yet > listed PRs which indicate this to be happening. I'm glad we can agree on something. Providing the PRs is not a lot to ask. Especially if it provides some forward movement and gets the support he needs. I can certainly relate to a potentially standoff'ish approach that's been seen recently. It's easy to take people's criticism as completely negative regardless what is said. To be honest though - people are using FreeBSD because it's a good project to say the least. A few negative comments doesn't mean they think the whole project is trash. Excluding the fact that we're all human and have emotions / ego, you have to agree that such a hostile approach isn't really the best thing. Regards, Chris