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Date:      Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:32:18 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Atipa <freebsd@atipa.com>
To:        Ada T Lim <ada@not-enough.bandwidth.org>
Cc:        "Jamil J. Weatherbee" <jamil@counterintelligence.ml.org>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Alpha Benchmarks was: Re: FreeBSD --- ALPHA
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.91.970813095831.17775A-100000@dot.ishiboo.com>
In-Reply-To: <199708130841.SAA13894@polya.blah.org>

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On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Ada T Lim wrote:

> > I was looking at alpha motherboards / systems tonight when I noted that
> > there are actually two different versions of the 500MHz 21164, an NT
> > (&linux) version and a UNIX (DEC UNIX). Apparently the UNIX version is
> > different and more expensive but will run NT also (the reverse is not
> > true). So what processor will freebsd-alpha run on, and Is the UNIX
> > version actually better or what?
> 
> I believe this is a DEC marketing ploy - Digital Unix may test for the
> different processor and fail on the cheap one, simply so they can subsidise
> the cost of Digital Unix without making it look _too_ expensive.

Not true. They are noticably different. The benchmarks show:

+--------------+------------+-----------+
| 533MHz       |  SPECint95 | SPECfp95  |
+--------------|------------|-----------|
| 21164 (LX)   |    16.4    |    22.5   | 
+--------------|------------|-----------|
| 21164PC (SX) |    14.0    |    17.0   |
+--------------|------------|-----------|
| 300MHz P-II  |    11.6    |     7.2   | (Intel's closest to referece)
+--------------+------------+-----------+

Max programmable bus speed for the 21164 is 200MHz, and the highest for
the 21164PC is 133MHz. NT (Linux/OpenBSD/NetBSD???) requires the "Windows
NT Alpha BIOS Firmware" on the motherboard. You can get the BIOS on either
the SX or LX motherboard. 

Both of these are tons faster than a 300MHz Pentium II. Our latest 
DEC catalog says to look for the next generation of Alpha to use a 0.25 
micron CMOS process, with SPECint95 over 30, and SPECfp95 over 50, and 
2GB/sec memory bandwidth. That's over 700% faster floating point than a 
300MHz Pentium II!

Can't wait for FreeBSD to support it...

Kevin



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