From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 30 14:05:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF04E16A404 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 14:05:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from natlemon.rzone.de (natlemon.rzone.de [81.169.145.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1629D43D46 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 14:05:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from athena.laverenz.de (p5480C6C3.dip.t-dialin.net [84.128.198.195]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k3UE5RWV011151 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 16:05:27 +0200 (MEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDF6E190D30 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 16:05:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14550-04 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 16:05:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix, from userid 2000) id E005DE190D2F; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 16:05:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 16:05:25 +0200 From: Uwe Laverenz To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060430140525.GC13690@laverenz.de> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <33BF4116-4A55-4B03-8791-37B4B8ACEB52@antsclimbtree.com> <12AF2FD6-1149-4012-951A-84F55BB1A6F9@wisc.edu> <20060427165206.6256f5fb.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: private site Sender: uwe@laverenz.de User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at laverenz.de Cc: Subject: Re: Intel Macs and FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 14:05:30 -0000 On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 02:03:20AM -0700, Mark Edwards wrote: > So, how about it? Is the concept of running this off of Ubuntu being > easier than FreeBSD just a pipe-dream? I have messed with Debian and > Ubuntu, but never tried to run a server off of either. I would love > to hear from people who have been down both roads, whether there is > some sense to it, or if I should just stick with FreeBSD. A good way to make the right decision would be intensive testing of the systems you don't know (Debian/Ubuntu). Install them, read about them, see how they fit your needs. >From my experience, running a server using a Debian-based system is a lot easier and safer (as long as you choose one of their "stable" releases). You get a well-tested set of software that does not change if you don't want it. Installing the latest security fixes is as easy as typing "apt-get update" followed by an "apt-get upgrade". The downside with running "stable" is that after a while the software will be somewhat outdated. This is not a problem for servers, but many people don't like "old" software on their desktops (Debian-Stable aka "Sarge" comes with Gnome 2.8, for example). This is one of the problems that Ubuntu tries to solve: they try to get a new release done twice a year. A quite common answer to the question "which distribution?" is: Debian-Stable for servers, Ubuntu for workstations. hth, Uwe