From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 2 10:28:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD43C1065676 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 10:28:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: from bizet.nethelp.no (bizet.nethelp.no [195.1.209.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 10B2F8FC1B for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 10:28:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8369 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2010 10:28:36 -0000 Received: from bizet.nethelp.no (HELO localhost) (195.1.209.33) by bizet.nethelp.no with SMTP; 2 Apr 2010 10:28:36 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 12:28:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20100402.122836.41723967.sthaug@nethelp.no> To: freebsd@jdc.parodius.com From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: <20100402101454.GA62089@icarus.home.lan> References: <20100402021715.669838e0.stas@FreeBSD.org> <11597.1270200291@critter.freebsd.dk> <20100402101454.GA62089@icarus.home.lan> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stas@FreeBSD.org, dougb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, randy@psg.com, phk@phk.freebsd.dk, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Results of BIND RFC X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:28:38 -0000 > [1]: FreeBSD really needs to move away from the "base system" as a > concept, as I've ranted about in the past. Strongly disagree. > Or if it cannot, the "base > system" needs to start using pkg_* (somehow) for use, and src.conf > WITHOUT_xxx (where xxx = some software) removed. Concept being: "I > don't need Kerberos; pkg_delete base-krb5. I also don't need lib32; > pkg_delete base-lib32". Beautiful concept, hard to implement due to > libraries being yanked out from underneathe binaries that are linked to > them. But you get the idea. This *might* be workable. However, in general - a large part of the reason why I use FreeBSD is that the FreeBSD base system gives me most of what I want, in *one* well defined chunk, *without* having to install a zillion extra packages, and without umpteen different versions of config files and locations for the important information. So please don't destroy this. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no