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Date:      Mon, 3 May 2004 13:28:41 -0400
From:      Charles Swiger <cswiger@mac.com>
To:        Marty Landman <MLandman@face2interface.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD-questions Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Suexec with Apache 1.3.29
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On May 3, 2004, at 12:42 PM, Marty Landman wrote:
> Maybe this is a foolish question, but how can reasonable security on a 
> server running Windows/Apache be achieved?

I'm not convinced that Windows can be configured to offer 
Internet-reachable services with "reasonable security", but excluding 
that concern: configure Apache to run as a system service started upon 
boot as an untrusted user which lacks permissions to change the files 
under Apache's document root.

> If the answer is what I fear, do you think that the 'native' MS 
> server, IIS can be configured more securely than Apache?

A review of the security history of both web servers suggests that IIS 
is significantly less secure than Apache.  IIS and/or SQLserver 
sometimes get installed and enabled by surprise when a user installs 
certain other M$ software, like the dev tools....

> Looking at it in another way, is it possible to have a secure, network 
> accessible server of any type w/o the Unix style permissions concept 
> in place?

Certainly.  Systems which do not use Unix-style permissions tend to use 
an access-control-list (ACL) schema instead, which some people like 
better, but there are other security models as well.

[ This thread is drifting off-topic for a FreeBSD list. ]

-- 
-Chuck



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