From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 5 22:15:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81955E43F37 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2017 22:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) Received: from sonic305-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic305-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.177.83]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EB2A63CB1 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2017 22:15:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) X-YMail-OSG: 38r2SLAVM1nwBio3HD5NX90HRRQ9iX2AKLhYj7wuT02Kl294lfXcTbmpLIDxMsV x6Q3xhxjTf6ChVPdJ9C4g5g5rsfUgzYq2516eKHOlh8V7Vro_FZRMVIewXJJ8fxZ.lpTNTE.Zd0y hcxxPN0GSqMaO2BD1Yw1Tsw4zUstBzya4rJqi_QQ.d.JNfq8xPEYOXh4BLBOZV2oRL8Ge87GK_MB fHBaL1aqn1LX66a0gKs7b0AZJY00sqpiLSuI4qP6ZNNu2lx.Q88COUj1s5PY5nC_ydw_uPvbtTNp d7JvBCi.ZmdU2hmqHW193tpDCWAbwTfExpUu92_YnIW5wRbmjjug3eXzjnx8Bu041JiXjpTmT8Tq UdKWWK8NQBkrkeUTmJst4zMKBY7tYJMBbV7ArVg8M8dKlRT6Zm1c84AQcpQWtGGYQFhgIrJaRF63 kDSxP2RwFnuOMnqly2sOOVteD64E_Sf7u_DuN1ktRyq2k.DJJrdfSSNn9JRSKKoHJ.EDOU1.jNQ8 oKEeaEZL.XaqmZ_KzVheZXIE5O2Fw8Jo- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic305.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 5 Oct 2017 22:15:09 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2017 22:15:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 887753.50365.bm@smtp116.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 38r2SLAVM1nwBio3HD5NX90HRRQ9iX2AKLhYj7wuT02Kl29 4lfXcTbmpLIDxMsVx6Q3xhxjTf6ChVPdJ9C4g5g5rsfUgzYq2516eKHOlh8V 7Vro_FZRMVIewXJJ8fxZ.lpTNTE.Zd0yhcxxPN0GSqMaO2BD1Yw1Tsw4zUst Bzya4rJqi_QQ.d.JNfq8xPEYOXh4BLBOZV2oRL8Ge87GK_MBfHBaL1aqn1LX 66a0gKs7b0AZJY00sqpiLSuI4qP6ZNNu2lx.Q88COUj1s5PY5nC_ydw_uPvb tTNpd7JvBCi.ZmdU2hmqHW193tpDCWAbwTfExpUu92_YnIW5wRbmjjug3eXz jnx8Bu041JiXjpTmT8TqUdKWWK8NQBkrkeUTmJst4zMKBY7tYJMBbV7ArVg8 M8dKlRT6Zm1c84AQcpQWtGGYQFhgIrJaRF63kDSxP2RwFnuOMnqly2sOOVte D64E_Sf7u_DuN1ktRyq2k.DJJrdfSSNn9JRSKKoHJ.EDOU1.jNQ8oKEeaEZL .XaqmZ_KzVheZXIE5O2Fw8Jo- X-Yahoo-SMTP: mX392iiswBAeJNdO_s.EW62LZDJR Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 00:20:08 +0200 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] Why did "enterprise" crap seem to win? (re: Virtualization, Java, Microsoft, Outsourcing, etc.)... Message-Id: <20171006002008.0dd518da8b2173ff8c8cafa2@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.6.0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2017 22:15:13 -0000 On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 10:10:04 -0400 Alejandro Imass wrote: > .. or did they? UaUUU.. Good mail. Just to share real case, from years 1999-2001 (and repeated again in other job (2007-2010)). We began to build IT infrastructure, my part worked fast, low resources, in C, but the other part was being developed in Java. While my daemons read, process and write results directly in binary data files, Java still was parsing the binary input files, because it hadn't binary operators. The solution wasn't to kick java, it was to convert all data to xml. Since then there wasn't a significant difference between my C daemons and Java programs, because network (100MB ethernet) becames the bottleneck and the final problem wasn't that programmers team did a bad work, it was sysop team fault (the guys that controlled the network) that didn't design and measure the expected traffic. After 18 years, now I'm again in a similar situation, trying to move the business process from .NET/Windows big monolitic server to Unix philosophy, simple tools that do one work and do it perfect (and FreeBSD server). --- --- Eduardo Morras