From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 2 17:37:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5EF16A419 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 17:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feargal@fbi.ie) Received: from mail16.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail16.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 16F3813C46A for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 17:37:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feargal@fbi.ie) Received: (qmail 63538 messnum 3845432 invoked from network[82.141.233.46/unknown]); 2 Aug 2007 14:37:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO alatar.edhellond.fbi.ie) (82.141.233.46) by mail16.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 63538) with SMTP; 2 Aug 2007 14:37:06 -0000 Received: from mablung.edhellond.fbi.ie (mablung.edhellond.fbi.ie [192.168.0.14]) by alatar.edhellond.fbi.ie (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l72Eb24s004547 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 14:37:05 GMT (envelope-from feargal@fbi.ie) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 15:37:02 +0100 From: Feargal Reilly To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070802153702.300a2ae9@mablung.edhellond.fbi.ie> In-Reply-To: <46B0EDEA.8050608@FreeBSD.org> References: <46B01D5E.6050004@psg.com> <20070801110727.GC59008@menantico.com> <46B0EDEA.8050608@FreeBSD.org> Organization: FBI X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.13; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: default dns config change causing major poolpah X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:37:18 -0000 On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:32:42 -0700 Doug Barton wrote: > The root server operators do not make changes in this kind of > abrupt fashion. This, I think, is the root (sic) of the objections here in FreeBSD land. I expect many people think the same of the FreeBSD project - that it won't make changes of this kind in a abrubt fashion, but that is exactly what has happened here. When I was updating, mergemaster highlighted the change and I thought, "How odd, I guess I missed that announcement", and merrily zapped it with my existing config. I didn't get upset, partly because I didn't really think very hard about the impact, but mostly because I assumed I was at fault for having missed the heads-up about it. As to what the default should be, I don't know, that's for all you smart people out there to "debate" so that the rest of us, who are eternally indebted to you, don't have to. I suspect that the vast majority of users also don't have an opinion either way, but enjoy hanging out in the bikeshed, just like me. -fr. -- Feargal Reilly, Chief Techie, FBI. PGP Key: 0xBD252C01 (expires: 2006-11-30) Web: http://www.fbi.ie/ | Tel: +353.14988588 | Fax: +353.14988489 Communications House, 11 Sallymount Avenue, Ranelagh, Dublin 6.