From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 10:41:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54DD16A46E for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:41:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asmrookie@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4E513C467 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:41:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asmrookie@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so2789788fgg.35 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:41:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=C94noNvwVnXJtnnhMt2sdcAc6/kOXcq58DrlyTom694=; b=NUgyHORW3gt3bVUOeHAeAJ959DOt8SmxOxlLwjo1BQbw4+VB6CDrXtN1wTPzj38rUddpM6fVe2dqE4l4Ls5CMGUV6jJxmw+hDj8PvCbJivTZqoiFzqpIoh3Owvy0FBmsWnxdIp6coJEta8rdkk/NfQz9/+VSrM2yph8ipJ53DwM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=g2quMsB2JY/Lc1Mp7CcK0qx4aKoKowZRlC3k2LubqOWC/PTmF0U+f+7SU66GJM1XgelyRnDcJ0ZolpLJsttiWXNcLsvIfckSfxyc/4fsH0zP3xznKHSNjQqasWLuk/2fpNdVM7sWjb17s+TMSqL3HiOcrfz9z6lPKs2BP/QzYsQ= Received: by 10.86.77.5 with SMTP id z5mr10245974fga.41.1202380911665; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:41:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.28.19 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 02:41:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3bbf2fe10802070241m6026ad63w78788d83acb48a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:41:51 +0100 From: "Attilio Rao" Sender: asmrookie@gmail.com To: "Alfred Perlstein" In-Reply-To: <20080207071314.GO99258@elvis.mu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3bbf2fe10802061700p253e68b8s704deb3e5e4ad086@mail.gmail.com> <20080207071314.GO99258@elvis.mu.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2ad8ee6dd56e829c Cc: Yar Tikhiy , Doug Barton , Jeff Roberson , freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, Scot Hetzel , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] Remove NTFS kernel support X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:41:53 -0000 2008/2/7, Alfred Perlstein : > * Attilio Rao [080206 17:00] wrote: > > As exposed by several users, NTFS seems to be broken even before first > > VFS commits happeing around the end of December. Those commits exposed > > some problems about NTFS which are currently under investigation. > > Ultimately, This filesystem is also unmaintained at the moment. > > > > Speaking with jeff, we agreed on what can be a possible compromise: > > remove the kernel support for NTFS and maybe take care of the FUSE > > implementation. > > What I now propose is a small survey which can shade a light on us > > about what do you think about this idea and its implications: > > - Do you use NTFS? > > - Are you interested in maintaining it? > > - Do you know a good reason to not use FUSE ntfs implementation? What > > the kernel counter part adds? > > - Do you think axing the kernel support a good idea? > > > My pragmatic view on this is that I think it's odd that something > that is sort-of working for a few people is going to be axed by > people that don't use it, while promising to replace it with something > better. > > Maybe a nicer way of saying/asking would be to ask: > > Is the FUSE replacement going to be tested to the point where it's > better than then current NTFS code? It is possible for you to reply without a flammable answer to any question? In particular in this case where it is just a polling... Attilio -- Peace can only be achieved by understanding - A. Einstein