From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Feb 12 16: 7:54 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B452E37B401 for <freebsd-chat@freebsd.org>; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:07:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from vador.skynet.be (vador.skynet.be [195.238.3.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A953743FBF for <freebsd-chat@freebsd.org>; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:07:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (ip-26.shub-internet.org [194.78.144.26] (may be forged)) by vador.skynet.be (8.12.7/8.12.7/Skynet-OUT-2.21) with ESMTP id h1D06gPa011968; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 01:07:39 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from <brad.knowles@skynet.be>) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: <a05200f4fba70847460b3@[10.0.1.2]> In-Reply-To: <3E4A83BC.8A15E7C3@mindspring.com> References: <20030211032932.GA1253@papagena.rockefeller.edu> <a05200f2bba6e8fc03a0f@[10.0.1.2]> <3E498175.295FC389@mindspring.com> <a05200f38ba6f51f20eff@[10.0.1.2]> <3E49C434.D8D497EE@mindspring.com> <a05200f44ba6fe5dff1a0@[10.0.1.2]> <3E4A83BC.8A15E7C3@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 00:14:33 +0100 To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> From: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be> Subject: Re: Email push and pull (was Re: matthew dillon) Cc: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>, Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@online.fr>, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: <freebsd-chat.FreeBSD.ORG> List-Archive: <http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/> (Web Archive) List-Help: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=help> (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=subscribe%20freebsd-chat> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=unsubscribe%20freebsd-chat> X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 9:26 AM -0800 2003/02/12, Terry Lambert wrote: >> In what way does IMAP4 need to be changed? > > Add domain support. There is no support in it in the login > process, which asks only username and password. The trick of > specifying "username@domain" will not work for a number of mail > clients, such as some versions Netscape, strip trailing "@*" > before sending it to the server, on the assumption that they > know better than you do. Certainly, you could pass pretty much whatever you want. The issue is whether or not the IMAP server understands the @domain portion. This problem is already solved -- check out Perdition. > Well, the "OP" in this case is actually a reference to a DJB > document, and what we're interested in here is solving the > problem. We don't have to accept both the data store and the > "don't send messages" parts of the document, all or nothing. Well, if we're interested in solving the problem and not necessarily accepting the entire document as specified, then we might as well throw the whole thing away. I can't see any way to apply any part of this proposal and make it work. > No, you'd direct-send notices. You'd flood-fill the messages > the notices referred to, to address the scalability and availability > problems, and to partially address the "revisionist history" and > "delete before receipt" problems. You can do this today. Send an e-mail and tell people to go read a specific USENET news message. Doesn't work too well. -- Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message