From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 08:40:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484F12D3 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35A18FC16 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:40:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from irix.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.39] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TRIzF-00062k-Hc; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:40:25 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TRIzF-00074F-D0; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:40:21 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9P8eLT6005918; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:40:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9P8eK7v005917; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:40:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:40:20 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201210250840.q9P8eK7v005917@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: bruce@cran.org.uk, mexas@bristol.ac.uk Subject: Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain In-Reply-To: <12874F2A-8A60-4D31-B090-0B9F1E4E7806@cran.org.uk> X-Spam-Score: -3.9 X-Spam-Level: --- Cc: freebsd@edvax.de, cpghost@cordula.ws, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:40:26 -0000 From bruce@cran.org.uk Thu Oct 25 09:22:33 2012 On 25 Oct 2012, at 08:52, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I'm probably missing something here. > ia64 uses EFI, but there's nothing > about checking for "non-signed" code. > I can boot VMS, FreeBSD, linux, etc. > And, by the way, firmware updates from EFI via e.g. > USB flash drives is trivial on ia64. > Perhaps what you are describing is not about the EFI > specification iteself, but what > different manufacturers add on top of it? It's in the latest UEFI spec - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Secure_boot . -- Bruce Cran fuck.. I'm out of touch. So this means I might not be able to boot freebsd at all on future ia64 boxes.. Anton