From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 20:27:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DAB16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:27:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3F943D2D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:27:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153])j2KKRGWR017480; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:27:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2KKREt5003779; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:27:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4b92be18094f69f731f15c4872428459@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <0e4314b2c521834b8dc23ba5faafccfa@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:27:13 -0500 To: Adam X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:27:23 -0000 On Mar 20, 2005, at 1:25 PM, Adam wrote: >> Do you claim to speak for Adaptec? Your words are dangerously >> ill-chosen if you do not work for Adaptec, because you are misleading >> people about the company and about their products. > > Quit being such a corporate apologist. They refuse to give out the > info > required to use their hardware. That prevents people from using it. > So > they obviously don't want people to buy their hardware. This... [ ... ] > And adults learn that businesses like money, and showing businesses how > they will lose money by making certain decisions can effect those > decisions. > Maybe you should take some more time to understand what is actually > happening > instead of making snide remarks about what you wrongly percieve is > happening. ...and this contradict each other. Pretend for a second that your first claim is actually correct, that Adaptec does not want to sell hardware. Just what do you think you are accomplishing by trying to convince people not to buy Adaptec hardware, then? According to your words, that's exactly what Adaptec wants. If you want to draw valid conclusions, you need to start with valid premises. More precisely, if you assert A implies B, and A is shown to be false, you have demonstrated absolutely nothing about B. Of course, before you get to the point of being able to derive inferential conclusions using first-order logic, you need to be coherent enough to put together an argument which does not claim that A and not A are true at the same time. -- -Chuck