From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Nov 12 10:00:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA22426 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:00:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA22416 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:00:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01114; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:34:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711121734.JAA01114@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Terry Lambert cc: don@PartsNow.com, nate@mt.sri.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newest Pentium bug (fatal) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Nov 1997 01:08:50 GMT." <199711120108.SAA17561@usr04.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:34:29 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If light can not escape from a black hole then how much does a photon weight ? Curious, should faster than the speed of lights particles should exist what will be their effect if such a particle collided with a particle? Cheers, Amancio > > Actually, I have a simpler question how can anyone describe > > singularity -- where the laws of physics as we now today > > breakdown. Assuming of course that black holes and singularity > > exists.... > > A black hole is not a singularity, per se, except for the idea that > that ds/dt goes to zero at the Schwartzchild Radius (which is > inside the event horizon). > > If you think about it, once the escape velocity is the speed of light, > then the Lorentz Transformation implies that all matter falling into > the hole will cease experiencing time at that point. If it can't > experience time, it can't experience velocity. The amount of time > that would have to necessarily pass for it to reach this point exceeds > by O(1) infinity the age of the universe. > > So technically, nothing has ever fallen *into* a "black hole" ...yet. > > 8-). > > Actually, it's no more nonsensical to think of pair anihillation in > a black hole than it is to think of pair production at the edge of > the event horizon (as we believe is happening at Cygnus XI). > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers.