From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 17:56:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7D41065684 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp5.server.rpi.edu (smtp5.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1818FC13 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp5.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8CHuCEo018400; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:56:12 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <48CAA137.6040404@elischer.org> References: <75BD7074-F561-42D5-A537-FFF44B612BFB@mac.com> <48CA089B.6010102@elischer.org> <64026D00-137A-47AE-B03E-F6A3F3769101@mac.com> <48CAA137.6040404@elischer.org> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:56:11 -0400 To: Julian Elischer , Marcel Moolenaar From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0) X-RPI-SA-Score: 0.00 () [Hold at 20.00] 22490(-25) X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.225 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Peter Wemm Subject: Re: serial console on 8.x (probably sio vs uart) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:56:16 -0000 At 10:04 AM -0700 9/12/08, Julian Elischer wrote: >> >>No. Hints are optional and misused as they are. We're >>not making things any cleaner if we make driver X look >>for hints for driver Y. > > >yeah but I almost bricked a machine the other day upgrading because >I didn't have any uart hints but there were sio hints from the >previous kernel that would have done the job. /usr/src/UPDATING includes some boot-loader commands which are supposed to help people who get into that situation. That didn't work for me, but ... Hmm. actually that reminds me of something I forgot to try. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu