From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Jul 23 09:39:57 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6741045452 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 09:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Received: from wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 788E3745CF for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 09:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1D12E9 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 05:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web6 ([10.202.2.216]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 23 Jul 2018 05:39:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=skunkwerks.at; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm2; bh=tYN5B/N4Xi8YwYEwgbCm5zToqPAOmkUPFrQW7O5e/KA=; b=RAsoniCM B/22NGTUyKEGCt/fAKKsmCGZO1v6pKXHD0X1mTRZhQ0nZeJumFqo9zU5ja0cBDc3 GHD+3/kF8zYjKeEU94h1/IOUqNKHjTqK07j59MzUlukqwjbS0+8bBa6PocNWiDeX Dxg6BLYPqAth1MSN4BU683+oaqUeOsA1uvT+enoYhHFA9cnLOeebX0tvmZhsCLea sA8gdPNaGH9tQfp6jDoLF/k74nCJbuAi8gn9UNPcg/ijwbCFnygS9gvU1W7YSCvg AFDyebILOgkD5raPYhVH3J4pTTnUOyGOa5eZe59rdf7j9FirNZNltcFgZhD6HpL4 tIJSRONhgmXDPA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=tYN5B/N4Xi8YwYEwgbCm5zToqPAOm kUPFrQW7O5e/KA=; b=wjM+75NdEFuJFXI9ywGyHDsReK/ZzhZV/+0rnmpJg1YWw VnKah8rGeX2aRAAhim/P+Nj6Qys3/3A+sOL8j18jBEqgsgqKokBeDLPdHdUdBTMQ wvgHR/uKr3XYOu2EOp1SCbHeWnO5eh3q0/+c2CkCGmtS5syi5HaiD84AZlsybT4V DjlcVILtAi0CSfXJ1NuBckyUk0ZjltN2Jw48g7ueoUJ9Ss8c39Z2aQ/v4/Nhl8h+ /gpLXAkIxKT7tyqmhoMSgTbKpY+RHnGWRMI0TixTv+MjhJ/tvh26NfwNxNJQ4sW9 PbgJmTOebqasRLdVywcmMGlh4aVqiB5i2zNGPF/7w== X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 2C0F64148; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 05:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1532338787.2290524.1449626008.703FB1D7@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Dave Cottlehuber To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-0843ff3e Subject: kmod driver incompatibilities with 11.1R created packages used on 11.2R Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 11:39:47 +0200 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 09:39:57 -0000 We've probably all seen the problems that non-developer users have run into with the various packages that have a dependency on kernel versions, when using the official pkg.freebsd.org built versions. We know that the problem will go away as soon as 11.1R is EOL end September, but in the interim I can imagine this must be really frustrating for people who don't have a familiarity with building from sources. Is there anything we can do to help them? they're often newcomers to FreeBSD so their new user experience is crap. Here's a few ideas, but there may be better ones: - put a note in pkg-message informing users of the issue and a link to a forums.freebsd.org post on how to build it manually - add something to the port's pkg-install script to only display that message on < 11.2R kernels - provide an alternative pkg repo so they don't have to build from source (possibly community supported) I'm specifically thinking of x11/nvidia-driver here but there are presumably other packages impacted from https://www.freshports.org/kld/ https://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html#sup A+ Dave