From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 30 00:08:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E24106564A for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:08:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FDD58FC08 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so842689fxm.13 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:08:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=EE/GliOsM23wi9xbU2rqBvg0u0if8T+zVpDRJBv2gcg=; b=T9oDBdtQcRpbmT8GzNuPtce4WlxELhcUNZJoX91kVcwxBg+d7I3zLXA0U13a8DC0m2 jwnZhDQybkBUPME9zzFZIKTfPCG5osTm8f7CwjO6QQmKWqKahE8UOXt9Q9vm7NWvjX+Z sEIkECzDOoNJTvTCFNw3sKDlZmPL8HyOrTKAM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=inR3G/G3Sm/VukTVVgKwYDYuLCbjvyjfnyAXVo0Uzh9RWlyeHT7FwTT3Ui5CRGzN65 gIrcpDXA32EVshdRCGWr51lSg+YHoFjaUrLWX4jzErBXuwV2W7QklDySjnICbeyPUMBc nz16D3DXzFobsFsfPQXArrg2iFq5l/0LFmi8w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.58.141 with SMTP id g13mr459323fah.146.1301443697870; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.85.201 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:08:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110330014820.84d5cf27.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20110329144527.c009ba8b.jhsu802701@jasonhsu.com> <20318_1301430722_4D9241C2_20318_86_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499BD354C76@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110329204501.GH2281@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <0148AA41-E800-477F-94BF-2D27E864053F@adelaide.edu.au> <20110329212348.GI2281@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110329213936.GA84631@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20110330000007.99a555cf.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110329192319.319dc40f@scorpio> <20110330014820.84d5cf27.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:08:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD , Jerry Subject: Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:08:19 -0000 > It's the same with computers. No matter what you want to do > with it, there IS something you need to learn, either BEFORE > you use it, or WHILE you're using it. With some simple means, > i. e. using the brain, reading, concluding, understanding, > THINKING, you're fine in this regards - because it's all > what is needed to advance to the required point. > I will add my $0.02 to this thread. Polytropon & others here, what they have suggested to OP, is that if he wants to succeed with FreeBSD, he will need to put some work into it. As with most things in life, this is very much true. There is not much handholding like Ubuntu/Mint/____name-of-some-version-of-linux here, but in all of them, you have to invest a bit in them too! I am not an expert and I have run into some problems myself, but I can't blame the OS for not being easy or idiot proof. I have sometimes gotten into trouble but the folks here on the list have been very helpful and have answered most of time. Exceptions do exist when I was trying to update through ports system as I am not ***all there when it comes to updating FreeBSD with ports/cvsup/portmaster, ..., etc***, I have more experience from the Linux variants, Slackware/Fedora/Slax-now-Porteus/ etc, but that does not detract me from having two machines running FreeBSD one with XFCE as the desktop and one with KDE. I have not messed with the updates though :(, I can trash the machine easily and that is something one can easily do. The good thing is that there is plenty of documentation i.e, FAQ, handbook, and the expertise of this list is also a great thing to have. Also, I could say that some folks want to know if there is an easy way to Math like Geometry and some brillant mathematician said ``there is no royal path to geometry``. We can conclude the same for FreeBSD or other BSD that is out there :) Hope that you and other users out there don't give up and give it a shot. It is a great OS, just that one needs to invest some time and learn to work with it :) Regards, Antonio