Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:36:00 -0500 From: "Walker, Scott" <WALKERSC@cibc.ca> To: "\"jlemon@americantv.com\" " <jlemon@americantv.com>, "\"pat.groce@state.sd.us\" " <pat.groce@state.sd.us> Cc: "\"freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG\" " <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help Message-ID: <199811091737.JAA27741@hub.freebsd.org>
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Yes I am.
I don't hack code all day, hell I can't even code. Yet I run a stable
linux and freebsd box. without any problems. Couldn't get anything but
3.0? That's funny, I got 2.2.7 yesterday that way. Guess you can't
figure out ftp yet. Oh well. And how is it freebsd fault, last time I
checked, it was the use who booted the machine, selected options. You
must have the new AI FreeBSd, that installs it's self and runs it
self.
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Subject: RE: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help
Author: "pat.groce@state.sd.us" [SMTP:pat.groce@state.sd.us] at BCEEXCH
Date: 11/9/98 12:30 PM
I couldn't get anything but 3.0 over the net. I mean i download boot.flp and
fdimage.exe, made my install disk, and 3.0 was what i got. DON'T BLAME ME, I
DID EVERYTHING THE WWW.FREEBD.ORG TOLD ME TO FOR AN INSTALL. Why didn't the
web site or setup program warn me not to install 3.0?
The web page at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html made it all
sound so simple. I didn't know there were hidden issues!
If the system isn't configured correctly its FREEBSD'S fault! Why can't a
fresh install even stand on two legs? So what if its out of disk space? Not
my fault. It should have configured the partitions correctly from the first
place. What a joke! And you're blaming ME for the system having problems?
ADMIT IT! FREEBSD CAN NEVER HOLD A CANDLE TO NT. ONLY A MOUNTAIN TROLL WHO
SPENDS HIS DAYS SLOBBERING OVER A KEYBOARD HACKING SYSTEM CODE COULD EVER
GET IT WORKING.
This os is not for the business world!
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Lemon [mailto:jlemon@americantv.com]
Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:27 AM
To: pat.groce@state.sd.us
Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help
On Nov 11, 1998 at 10:01:11AM -0600, pat.groce@state.sd.us wrote:
> We had been running freebsd for 4 years to handle our internet email. Last
> week the hard drive crashed on the system. I had a tape backup of
important
> files so i reinstalled using the new freebsd 3.0 version.
Let me get this straight; You had a system crash, so instead of
re-installing a known good system, you upgrade a production system
to the bleeding edge (3.0) without any prior testing?
Honestly, this was a mistake, and the version that should have
been installed was installed was 2.2.7.
> cryptic errors. Sendmail keeps giving me an error:
> sendmail[131]: NOQUEUE: low on space (have 0, SMTP-DAEMON needs 101 in
> /var/spool/mqueue)
So, sendmail gives you an error message saying that it is out of
disk space, and you blame it on sendmail? No offense, but it
sounds to me like the system isn't configured correctly.
> To hell with FreeBSD. We are replacing all of the systems with NT versions
> of sendmail. And it works great! I neat little GUI makes sendmail and the
> Exchange listservs easy to manage.The software may cost more, but in terms
> of staff time, we're saving thousands, not to mention all the frustration.
>
> I read all the news on how unix is going to give microsoft a run for the
> operating system market. I don't believe it for a second.
You are welcome to your opinion. If NT works better for you,
then by all means, use it.
FreeBSD is powerful, and can do anything that you want it to do.
However, it setting it up and maintaining it does require more
knowledge on the administrator's part than NT. In return, it
can provide "years of trouble-free operation"(tm).
You did note that FreeBSD handled your email for 4 years before a
harddrive crash. Please feel free to give us a summary in 4 years
from now of how well NT behaves in doing the same task.
--
Jonathan
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