From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 18 8:55:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E012137BED8 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:55:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Received: from localhost (lplist@localhost) by q.closedsrc.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e6IFrF411179; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:53:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:53:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: leegold Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new books, changing my pt. of view In-Reply-To: <000b01bff0cb$f90fe8e0$57e17ad1@beefstew> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I agree that Windows is easier to learn from the standpoint of a newbie and Joe Coworker and there isn't anything wrong with that. I personally dual-boot between Windows NT 4 and FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE at home and I use the latter just to tweak with it and learn more on my spare time. I generally recommend FreeBSD in situation where someone needs a server or a firewall and does not want to spend a fortune on software and hardware. Stability and performance is a huge key of FreeBSD and OpenBSD, but the price you have to pay is the somewhat steeper learning curve. The same goes with Visual Basic versus C/C++. The former is easy to learn and can do things relatively easy, but it's no where nearly as stable or as universal as C/C++. I'm not saying that FreeBSD stinks as being a client OS, but that's not only the fault of FreeBSD nor is it the goal of FreeBSD (I could be wrong). The UI/GUI most be as easy to learn as Windows before anyone starts flocking towards it. // Linh Pham // // Proud supporter of FreeBSD and OpenBSD // FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org // OpenBSD - http://www.openbsd.org /* "Oregon, n.: Eighty billion gallons of water with no place to go on Saturday night." */ On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, leegold wrote: > Isn't anybody worried that the new O'Reilly books in the making will leave > the newbie w/the short end of the stick paper documentation-wise? Imo, this > is the current state of affairs. > > wait a second, > > But upon refection, I have been realizing that I am DIRECTLY comparing WinNT > and FreeBSD and I now think it's apples vs. oranges. A fairer comparison is > FreeBSD WITH KDE vs. WinNT. > > I know I'll be publicly flogged for saying this but NT is easier to learn > and is apparently an easier OS to document for the newbie ( by is very > nature and culture ) than Unix a.k.a. FreeBSD. I am primarily talking about > CLIENTS - yeah I think NT workstation is a good client. Kneejerks that it > crashes is not true Imo. > > But, I'm immature: > > I think I should get w/the program and start thinking of FreeBSD as a server > and NOT continue trying to configure and learning it as an ultra-stable > ( x ) windows client machine - cause I'm in that "mode" and I saw the > "answer" months ago - KDE w/all the bells and whistles - truly amazing. > > so, x windows works, I can use Netscape if I have to. I think I have to > explore the "core" of FreeBSD - as the ultimate internet server OS vs. > client. Whatdya think? > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message