From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 11 14:24:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0677116A41F for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:24:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33306.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33306.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4ED4E43D60 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:24:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 47058 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jan 2006 14:24:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jGrpRxRewbWZUQV8klVYFYgfEs06Z51M6xnZIpRquMIgH83EqWvZqRWCMrx4jsSXh6BlFLXb90rfxwSJ0LCbRn0q2FAWUXai70YXW8IXyUBh3lowpZq585Yqg8tW2E2sNNFcz8twcWEtPlrB2nsLtZ7HHmDIsKVrSChJRZnSwLU= ; Message-ID: <20060111142432.47056.qmail@web33306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33306.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:24:31 PST Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:24:31 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Marcin Jessa In-Reply-To: <20060111151133.236856a4.lists@yazzy.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd router X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:24:37 -0000 --- Marcin Jessa wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 05:54:08 -0800 (PST) > Danial Thom wrote: > > > > > > > --- Marcin Jessa wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 05:16:21 -0800 (PST) > > > Danial Thom wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- ann kok wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > > > I think this group might be correct to > ask > > > the > > > > > performance of freebsd as router > > > > > > > > > > I have run freebsd 4.11 as router for 3 > > > years. > > > > > I like > > > > > freebsd because it is more stable and > its > > > > > security. > > > > > Recently, the bandwidth grows to stop > about > > > > > 383M in > > > > > mrtg graph and have packet loss when it > > > reaches > > > > > to > > > > > 370M > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to use freebsd 6.0. Could > you > > > help > > > > > how to > > > > > tune the freebsd to have high network > > > > > throughput? I > > > > > test the throughput by ipref software. > the > > > max > > > > > is > > > > > about 390M > > > > > > > > > > I configure polling, loader.conf and > use > > > the > > > > > Intel(R) > > > > > Pentium 3.0 Hz, intel Giga em0, sata > drive > > > with > > > > > 2G > > > > > memory > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your help > > > > > > > > Stop wasting your time and stay with > FreeBSD > > > > 4.11. Its the fastest router platform Man > has > > > > ever created, and its likely to say that > way. > > > > > > > It sounds like > > > > 1) you've never done any testing > > 2) you don't understand how things work > > > > Check my other post in this thread for > details. > > > > Whats the point of "trolling" that freebsd 4 > is > > better at routing than 5? Do you think I own > > stock in freebsd 4? Linux 2.6 is slower than > > linux 2.4 at routing. Its the simple truth. > > Easily > > determined. > > Point proven, you are trolling. > There is an article I would like you to read > before going any further: > http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ It helps if you understand benchmarking, and why these tests are a joke. Does an O/S use sockets to route? No. Does it do any forking or binding? no. At least try to understand the subject matter. And freeBSD 5.1 was a piece of crap and even the freebsd developers admit that. So the fact that you give even an once of credibility to it is just plain stupid. On second thought, I think I'm right about Cisco vs Freebsd. Cisco doesn't have any product that can route as many PPS as freebsd 4.x without specialized hardware. The proof of the pudding is in the test. Set up a box with 1 route and 2 NICs and pump traffic through it until it starts to drop packets. Then pop another disk on and try with another O/S. Its not rocket science. FreeBSD 4.x wins hands down. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com