From owner-freebsd-arch Fri Mar 16 13:42:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail-100baset.rpi.edu [128.113.26.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C9437B71E; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:42:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA94240; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:42:42 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:42:41 -0500 To: John Baldwin , Alfred Perlstein From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: NO MORE '-BETA' Cc: arch@FreeBSD.org, Jordan Hubbard , Terry Lambert Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:26 PM -0800 3/16/01, John Baldwin wrote: >On 16-Mar-01 Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> Yes, the real problem with this is '2' (newvers.sh), there's nothing >> wrong with using 'BETA' in the names on the ftp site. > >People who follow -stable should be reading -stable. A lot of people "should" be doing a lot of things. Maybe these users partially follow the -stable mailing list, but happen to ignore any message with '-beta' in the subject because "they know" they are running the -stable branch. As I say, it is only a few people each release, and it never takes more than a few minutes to calm them down, but it DOES happen every release cycle. > > ~ % uname -srm >> FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE-RC i386 > >Except that it's not a real release candidate. Which is why we >don't just use -RC the whole time. I do think the current "beta" period should have some specific name, and one which doesn't imply "release-candidate". I always thought it was odd to be calling it "beta", because (whether we like it or not) "beta" implies something certainly less trustworthy "stable". On the other hand, I still haven't come up with anything more inventive than "4.3-pre-release", or maybe "4.3-pre-rel" (just to be shorter). Maybe something like "4.3-code-freeze"? Or "4.3-precursor"? -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message