From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Oct 4 11:51:01 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA29651 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 11:51:01 -0700 Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.20.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA29643 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 11:50:53 -0700 Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id NAA11924; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 13:49:36 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199510041849.NAA11924@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: mail spamming To: chuckr@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 13:49:35 -0500 (CDT) Cc: FreeBSD-Hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Oct 4, 95 02:38:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Excuse me a second for topic change. You've all read this idiotic thing > from euphoria.com, I want to know who to complain to about it. > Euphoria.com isn't listed by my nameserver, but there's MX records being > handled for it by domain uu.net, does that mean I can send complaints to > postmaster @uu.net about this? No. There is a valid domain (I assume) "euphoria.com", but these messages did not originate there and you will be inadvertently harassing a helpless site. These messages originated at Internet Direct (indirect.com): (brasil.jgreco.p1-3) 1:42pm /tmp_mnt/net/lunar/code/solar/etc/diskless/src/throttle 373 > whois -h rs.internic.net. indirect-dom Internet Direct, Inc. (INDIRECT-DOM) 1366 E. Thomas Road, Suite 210 Phoenix, AZ 85014-5741 Domain Name: INDIRECT.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Internet Direct, Inc. (IND-NOC) hostmaster@indirect.com (602) 274-0100 Record last updated on 09-May-94. Record created on 31-Mar-93. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.INDIRECT.COM 165.247.1.3 ICM1.ICP.NET 192.94.207.66 NS1.SPRINTLINK.NET 204.117.214.10 NS2.SPRINTLINK.NET 199.2.252.10 NS3.SPRINTLINK.NET 204.97.212.10 The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's). Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information. so you should be bitching at "hostmaster@indirect.com". Since that is an extremely vague address, you might try some of the following if you do not get a response: EXPN 250 Internet Direct Administrator EXPN 250 Michael Swinson March EXPN 250 User Support Services EXPN 250 User Support Services EXPN 250-David M. Crumpton <\crumpton@bud.indirect.com> 250 Internet Direct Pager <|.filter@bud.indirect.com> I've seen a lot of crap coming from this site lately, as my memory serves.. so I suspect you won't get an answer or any satisfaction. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847