From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 24 23:47:46 2014 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6B08A19; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 23:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x22e.google.com (mail-qa0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E0E0D9A; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 23:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id x12so3894927qac.5 for <multiple recipients>; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:47:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type; bh=UdfjkW8OutO/Fte21ClgcNF51zof/bVTmoM02yzQ6Mc=; b=HqpuqrVg4kcc/K4iC0He2i23dJlo/RNoqhRvYC4BnAq853Fbpl/mCuYiE4bRC4DQWK uvuEUE7WQCRI0S6QrgDHijWbnyAW+qyrL7wmQnG8jSGqiNHcn44wABhGIzCgrRW2sWbP xauf4A73Ulp3vmJ2jOs6k03Ogsetb5g07OnB427Tfwbt86jDxMQEsBzCMCLKvrjshl6b w7YdOEBzTIBzlWKxLiCMt2dvQyRhtXIZz8BafAuHRO3pXmKyjaSRfmPOSHIZh3AcPvWM yIMG/xslf6QgdogB/Xx6LxkpDACJCvj5cajam+ZX1US3GGaOPxStE18EVWE76xlTR+mQ FsJQ== X-Received: by 10.140.81.42 with SMTP id e39mr15163505qgd.60.1411602464713; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zhabar.attlocal.net (107-222-186-3.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [107.222.186.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a3sm673153qaa.49.2014.09.24.16.47.42 for <multiple recipients> (version=SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:47:31 -0700 From: Justin Hibbits <chmeeedalf@gmail.com> To: Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net> Subject: Re: Poor state of the build infrastructure. Message-ID: <20140924164731.2c170ced@zhabar.attlocal.net> In-Reply-To: <FC0F5230-DF74-4740-A0A6-C2FDF022D094@xcllnt.net> References: <4496BEA3-9F6C-4F09-B8F6-68D97A331A60@xcllnt.net> <1643827.epFl9jnZN1@ralph.baldwin.cx> <FC0F5230-DF74-4740-A0A6-C2FDF022D094@xcllnt.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; powerpc64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/b7Jp_gUBr12UWY=ZDZK5=3="; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current <freebsd-current.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-current>, <mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-current@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current>, <mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 23:47:46 -0000 --Sig_/b7Jp_gUBr12UWY=ZDZK5=3= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:33:46 -0700 Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net> wrote: >=20 > On Sep 24, 2014, at 12:54 PM, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> wrote: >=20 > > On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 09:29:48 AM Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > >> What is going on here? > >> Are we still in some kind of flux and people aren't done yet or is > >> this the intended state by virtue of noone having anything left on > >> there TODO list? > >=20 > > Sorry to ask a dumb question, but are you sure you did the make > > buildworld first? Shouldn't that have errored if it couldn't build > > crt1? >=20 > The root cause problem was that MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX was not set > to whatever it was set to during buildworld. That was easy > enough to figure out when a bunch of things don't add up. That's a very annoying problem, and even more annoying to track down. > But neither problem mentioned in the email had anything to > do with MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX. Having to set the COMPILER_TYPE > as part of an install is a bug. Entering a powerpc buildenv > and having a compiler that builds for the host (or maybe > just some default) is a regression. When MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX isn't set, it takes whatever compiler it can find. It should probably error out instead, since the build environment isn't sane at this point. I ran into this probably a few weeks back. > The only thing the FreeBSD build is good at, really, is > building in /usr/src for the host. The rest is just not > up to par and I think it harms FreeBSD beyond belief. I have no problems building outside of /usr/src. - Justin --Sig_/b7Jp_gUBr12UWY=ZDZK5=3= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUI1gbAAoJEDDHhY43vi25yigIAJ+uvO30d5VA5zb4W0YWcJXT uT24hetiZN6h7dK9sLLMIr4jArf06sKHhK+Sy+uSGAijJWiYF4FzOWf+QAKy7kCL JhhJEBbfQM/ikDfUhJauIw432O9/3Fiv36zFYJDLvcGcLB+3OsfIM5/PQuxp+i6k tWPC23Ws+ogYwN3pdIhNTcB8GG6A8lGcQrzupdhmxMw0XuTLg/w6ZWCykD+XTkV9 xkJjusSqXUmyFqkCz5tb8ywbBXN8ak6gT1VjXx+LpmgJL9hVPzuyNMkVh/rM8D1b k3oPLJeMCC5JwiZZ4l4YRuVajPfSacdsSGFlTlvJTlNARHT48H7x2rvMBB5zBdM= =bGdM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/b7Jp_gUBr12UWY=ZDZK5=3=--