From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 9 10:53:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF86D106566C; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 10:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@psconsult.nl) Received: from mx1.psconsult.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:7b8:30f:e0::5059:ee8a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2E18FC0A; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 10:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.psconsult.nl (mx1.hvnu.psconsult.nl [46.44.189.154]) by mx1.psconsult.nl (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q89Ar0n2035830 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 9 Sep 2012 12:53:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@psconsult.nl) Received: (from paul@localhost) by mx1.psconsult.nl (8.14.5/8.14.4/Submit) id q89Ar0nZ035829; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 12:53:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@psconsult.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: mx1.psconsult.nl: paul set sender to freebsd@psconsult.nl using -f Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 12:53:00 +0200 From: Paul Schenkeveld To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, arch@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120909105300.GA35526@psconsult.nl> References: <20120908234659.GA10489@server.rulingia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120908234659.GA10489@server.rulingia.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Subject: Re: Removing CVS from HEAD X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 10:53:07 -0000 On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 09:46:59AM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2012-Sep-08 18:09:55 -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: > >As such I propose that we treat CVS as deprecated in 9.x and remove > >CVS from HEAD [0]. > > peter@ hinted at this in > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2012-August/069251.html > and this lead to a subthread where jhb@ and Julian H. Stacey disagreed > whilst I agreed and further suggested that RCS also be removed. > > As I said before: CVS (and RCS) are both GPL-licensed tools that (as > of 10.x) no longer serve any purpose in the base system. ... They are > [therefore] not needed in the FreeBSD base. Losing CVS and RCS from the base system will cause me a lot of work on systems I've running here and there with scripts written over the last 20 or so years using either one but that by itself should not be a reason to keep them in the base system indefinitely. That being said I'd like to mention that although CVS is in ports, I cannot find RCS there. Reworking all scripts that are still using RCS would be a major undertaking. There are also a dozen or so ports in our tree that use/build on RCS. So my plea here is to not remove RCS unless it re-appears in ports. With kind regards, Paul Schenkeveld