Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 09:35:36 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence.it> Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Port system "problems" Message-ID: <20120627073536.GO41054@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <4FE9817C.7020905@netfence.it> References: <4FE8E4A4.9070507@gmail.com> <20120626065732.GH41054@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20120626092645.Horde.HytQbVNNcXdP6WQ1aMtjoMA@webmail.df.eu> <4FE96BA0.6040005@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4FE97008.2060501@netfence.it> <4FE97AE1.9080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4FE9817C.7020905@netfence.it>
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--Y5wfsVCgeKAcINk2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:31:40AM +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 06/26/12 11:03, Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 > > Yes, it will multiply the number of ports. By three is about right, > > given that most ports will only have port-docs and port-examples > > sub-ports. However, first of all, you are assuming that the effort > > required to install each of those sub-ports is the same as it is to > > install a single port now. That is simply not the case. >=20 > Not exactly. > I still didn't get the details, so I might speak nonsense, however... >=20 > The "effort" will be 3x processing time for portupgrade (or whatever) to= =20 > update the package database 3 times as much as before. > I remember the big X.org split up: going from a few ports to tens of=20 > them slowed down an installation/upgrade process by an order of=20 > magnitude (or even more). >=20 >=20 The defails are not writtent yet, but it won't do that for sure :) There are plenty of other ways >=20 > > A typical example would involve client-server apps -- so mysqlNN-server > > becomes a sub-port of mysqlNN-client. You get to check a box saying > > 'install the server as well as the client' when you go to install > > mysqlNN. Similarly all those php5-XYZ modules become sub-ports of > > lang/php5. >=20 > We had this in the past: a php-extension port with options to include=20 > each extension or leave it out. > Each time we needed to add a missing extension, we needed to reconfigure= =20 > this port and rebuild all. > Now we have each extension in its own port and I think it's much better. > I just hope we don't get back to that. So you don't know what will be the change because it hasn't be presented ye= t, and not written but you claim that the old solution is better, nice, FYI sub package are coming (after stagedir) but not now yet. Secondly in the way I want to implement them, you would still be able to bu= ild them individually. So please before whining wait for the HEADSUP saying the= work has started on splitting packages and come help, or explain what you want at that time. the coding process will be the same has for stage support for wh= ich there were an exp-run and will be soon a CFT. >=20 >=20 > What I anticipate will often happen is installing some port, finding out= =20 > that some part is missing, install the missing part, repeat that several= =20 > times. > I just hope I'm wrong (and again, it is at all possible that I am wrong= =20 > here). >=20 >=20 > bye & Thanks > av. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --Y5wfsVCgeKAcINk2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/qt8gACgkQ8kTtMUmk6EwZQQCcCvZy+xkym1kQgFDy4u2Nt25D zw8AoIcmjit2stxCPdlxRLoXj9PkVmeV =M5Da -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Y5wfsVCgeKAcINk2--
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