From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 15:47:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B498C6 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:47:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68DFD2B64 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74EE21216 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 01 Aug 2013 11:47:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=u619oHQQc080IZDCwy+FHvXq8HA=; b=L54 repcHH926FQh/cfH5xxlMr3JNxoT3NPo/pf+KUDZHoCAl5nh6mx/5VYGryh4BEcE NFInyYRgH+yKvA4/NDGOpWp1s6JbW9SS6y+0+UZ4QXnilQXnAgl77saf+sv3xgHM QORnsdN0Sc2GNhHr/0IPWZqK5fNifzdu5HSI9cs4= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 847C8B01FFD; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1375372066.32718.4618055.71C55506@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: J/1HwK+StSdWUllRY9tC9fBLRXIBVghkOTJH4uThonRv 1375372066 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-2d520484 In-Reply-To: <622977670ec4e80b844c5c6c978ae6f6.authenticated@ultimatedns.net> References: <622977670ec4e80b844c5c6c978ae6f6.authenticated@ultimatedns.net> Subject: Re: Please remove Perl from ports Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 10:47:46 -0500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 15:47:51 -0000 I can't comment on the perl changes directly, but I can assure you that if you use port-mgmt/pkg (pkgng) and build your ports into packages via ports-mgmt/poudriere you will have zero upgrade problems -- a simple "pkg upgrade" will handle the scenario properly. I really haven't tried following UPDATING with portmaster/portupgrade to see what happens. I'd suspect that portmaster is doing something wrong, but further investigation is really necessary to have a solid conclusion of what happened on your server(s). For the first time in ages the ports environment on FreeBSD is rapidly evolving. There are many, many new features that benefit the whole of the userbase and will ease support and deployment across the board. We're trying to limit turbulence, but sometimes things are unforeseeable. This is the nature of the incredible flexibility of FreeBSD's ports; there's more than one way to do something.