From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 05:21:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36F016A41F; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 05:21:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22C643D46; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 05:21:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j8B5LbqS054052; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:21:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <4323BEE5.1090001@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:21:41 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050615 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: joao.barros@gmail.com References: <70e8236f05070208212e36c375@mail.gmail.com> <200507291318.24428.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <70e8236f050807192628b0405e@mail.gmail.com> <200508081311.51857.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <70e8236f05090321007f621845@mail.gmail.com> <70e8236f05090513381584dda0@mail.gmail.com> <70e8236f0509051350e020f76@mail.gmail.com> <70e8236f05091016251510408c@mail.gmail.com> <43236E04.4020208@samsco.org> <70e8236f05091018192d76725a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <70e8236f05091018192d76725a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Warner Losh , Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: 6.0-CURRENT SNAP004 hangs on amr (patch) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 05:21:39 -0000 Joao Barros wrote: > On 9/11/05, Scott Long wrote: > > >>Thanks for the invesitgative work. I strenously objected to this change >>when it went in, and this kind of problem is precisely the reason why. >>Turning off device power on the PCI bus willy-nilly is such an >>incredibly bad idea, even if the hope with it is to get a few extra >>minutes of battery life on a laptop. >> >>I worked around this problem with the AAC devices, but I don't know if >>the AMR devices can be worked around the same way. I've asked Warner in >>private to back out the change. If he refuses, then I'm afraid that >>you'll need to remember an undocumented workaround, or find another OS. >> >>Scott > > > It took me more than a week and almost 20 kernel (and some > buildworlds) compilations to get the problem identified and be able to > use a workaround. It will take me much more than that to make me walk > from FreeBSD :) > I can't stress enough my respect for this project and the people who > make it what it is: Thank you! > > -- > Joao Barros I appreciate your determination. I'm just pissed that I've been warning Warner for 9 months that there were hidden landmines with his position on the PCI power-down code, and I've been completely brushed off by him. Most other users don't have your determination. Thank you, though, for your work here. Scott