From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Apr 30 13:18:16 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8172BC702 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2020 13:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gregv.net) Received: from aurora.gregv.net (aurora.gregv.net [192.111.144.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CbY40F5wz4k7t; Thu, 30 Apr 2020 13:18:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gregv.net) Received: by aurora.gregv.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7DC3A763; Thu, 30 Apr 2020 09:18:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 09:18:15 -0400 From: Greg Veldman To: Kurt Jaeger Cc: "@lbutlr" , FreeBSD Subject: Re: mail/mailman v3? Message-ID: <20200430131815.GA1068@aurora.gregv.net> References: <20200430015916.GM39563@home.opsec.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200430015916.GM39563@home.opsec.eu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49CbY40F5wz4k7t X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@gregv.net has no SPF policy when checking 192.111.144.138) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@gregv.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.98 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gregv.net]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.975,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:31863, ipnet:192.111.144.0/20, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(1.10)[ipnet: 192.111.144.0/20(1.94), asn: 31863(3.62), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 13:18:16 -0000 On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 03:59:16AM +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > There are many thousand links to the freebsd pipermail archives, > and invalidating all those links sounds like a serious loss of institutional > memory. > > Is there a way to cope with that ? Some sort of > lookup 'old link' -> 'new link' ? Internally, the Mailman archives are just a bunch of script-generated flat HTML and TXT files. The only Mailman specific thing is the bit of logic that gates access to a private archive with a credential check. For public archives (which if my understanding is right, most Mailman-managed FreeBSD lists are) there should just be a line somewhere in your HTTPD config that aliases pipermail/ to /archives/public/. So no matter what you switch to if/when Mailman2 dies, it should be fairly trivial to preserve the current archives in a read-only state at their current URLs. Even private ones, assuming you replace the Mailman gatekeeper with something else (perhaps access control in your HTTPD itself). -- Greg Veldman freebsd@gregv.net