From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jun 8 20:19:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-206-88-224.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.206.88.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5F737C1A3 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:19:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01210; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:23:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200006090323.UAA01210@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Julian Elischer Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kerneld for FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 Jun 2000 01:13:33 PDT." <393F55AD.446B9B3D@elischer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 20:23:33 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Mike Nowlin wrote: > > > > > Not to mention "how much memory do you really gain by unloading modules"? > > Considering the price of RAM these days (although not as low as > > it was, but I won't be spending $650 US for 16M any time soon > > again), the few K that unloading a bunch of modules saves won't > > EVER really be noticed by the 83Tb chunk that Nutscrape allocates. ... > The issue is with really small ram embedded systems. > Making things CAPABLE of being small is different from making > them dynamicly loadable. Nobody in their right mind is going to produce a "really small ram" embedded system that features the sort of nondeterminism that "automatically" (read 'randomly') unloading modules would involve. It's simple; a kernel-module-handling-daemon does not have anything to offer us at this time. We don't need one; the problems it might be applied to solve have already been solved differently, and we are (generally) happy with the results. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message