From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Dec 30 15:15:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225DB37B401 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FCF43E4A for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:15:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0157.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.157] helo=mindspring.com) by puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18T987-0002wK-00; Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:15:32 -0800 Message-ID: <3E10D344.8D824039@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:14:12 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Hayes Cc: dever@getaclue.net, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter. References: <200212302236.gBUMar175586@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a494cdd762bcba36647f729f045d55ada62601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dave Hayes wrote: > > Both are good and easily implemented solutions. Now we come back to > > trying to make people understand something forceably. :-) > > This is an age old problem of course. If you manage to do this, you get > programmable human robots. No more intellectual freedom. ;) SPAM is a systems engineering problem. No more or no less. Human beings don't have the intellectual freedom to be able to ignore gravity or inertia; so this make them robots? If the SPAM enforcement was an emergent property of the system used to communicate SPAM -- and other information -- then not sending SPAM would be as natural as not walking down the street, suspended six inches in the air. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message