From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Apr 1 16:34:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA18676 for chat-outgoing; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 16:34:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18671 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 16:34:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA10694; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 17:30:46 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 17:30:46 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199704020030.RAA10694@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Terry Lambert Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), proff@suburbia.net, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Internal clock In-Reply-To: <199704020005.RAA12505@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: <199704020008.RAA10516@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199704020005.RAA12505@phaeton.artisoft.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert writes: > > *old-timer-advice-mode-on* > > > > As my pappy used to say, you can have *anything* you want in life, you > > just can't have *everything* you want. So, if you want to be as rich as > > Bill Gates, you can be. But, in the process you will probably also be > > as despised as he is, because in the path to get there he stepped on > > alot of people, offended most of his early partners, and basically gave > > up on having a 'normal' life/family. > > > > Sure, you can have that if you want, but you have to give up alot of > > other things you want in life. > > > > *old-timer-advice-mode-off* > > > > You can have anything you want Terry, you just can't have everything. > > You want everything, and I'm sorry to be the one that breaks it to you > > but it ain't gonna happen. > > Who said I wanted to be as rich as Bill Gates? You were the one > putting forth "as rich as Bill Gates" as a measure of success or > failure of a given approach to solving a particular problem. No, I said that if you had fore-knowledge of all the necessary requirements for a project *before* you finished it, you'd be as rich as Bill Gates. Your reply was: > You were attributing "We'd all be richer than Bill Gates" to having > preknowledge, implying that there isn't a formula that you can follow > to get the same results. Since I don't believe even you think a person can have intimate fore-knowledge of what someone intends to do with a piece of software, I took it that you wanted to a formula to follow so you could be as rich as Bill, since the former is so out of touch w/reality that you couldn't possibly be thinking it. > > > Software does not mutate. > > > > You've never been involved with 'Real' software projects then, and again > > are showing your ignorance of how the real world does things. > > > > When you gonna enter the real world? > > When you send me one of your nifty CDROMs where the bits apparently > change over time (how does you-all get 'way with callin' dem "ROMs"?). Bits on a piece of plastic aren't software, any more than molecules of metal makes something a 'car'. They may have things in common, but don't lump them together. Nate